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A pillar - trim repair and running wires

alrock

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My A pillar trim has busted clips for the third time but now, with no warranty, I didn't want to shell out $90 for a new piece. So I bought a $120 tool to fix the problem :)

I did the repair a the same time that I was running the wires for the Rigid lights and thought I would include a few pics as I know Timgco has brought up the A pillar wiring to a few members.

First, I removed the wires from the looms then laid them flat, securing them with duct tape. I left loom on each end so the transition to open areas would still be clean.
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To get the loom under the pillar trim I did notch the trim on the side, about 3/4" x 1/2" to give room for the wires to run without being crimped and without bending the trim
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Because all three tabs on the back of my A pillar trim (tabs that were to fit into those white female clips) I decided I wanted to secure the pillar trim with screws. I didn't want to just do sheet metal screws as those would wear out after time and this trim has been removed for a few replacement windshields.

I chose to use "nutserts" aka "rivet nuts". These work like rivets in that you insert the nut into a hole, use the tool to compress the nut and it flares out and grabs the sheetmetal from underneath. Here's the kit that I got off eBay with a sample of different size nuts with the appropriate mandrels and other tools.
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For the 10/24 nuts I used I needed to drill a 9/32 hole. From there I put in the nut, used the tool to compress it and ended up with two secure nuts. I put one in the middle and one up top. I did at a bit of RTV around each nut to keep out moisture.
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I used 3/4" long black machine screws with washers to secure the pillar trim. It is a tight as it ever was!
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So it isn't flawlessy pretty with the exposed screws but I really want to minimize having to replace these pieces every now and then.
 

Pappibri

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Are those pillars covered under the warranty.. I know you did not have one, but I have the extended and i just had my windshield replaced a week ago and today I noticed that the drivers side one is sticking up.. Looks like they broke the clip on it when they replaced the windshield.. So is this something the warranty would usually cover.. I have the extended but I am still also under 50,000.
 

alrock

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Yes, they are covered under bumper to bumper warranty. I don't know about extended warranty coverage. I'm on my third set which is why I don't have confidence that buying another one will be a better long term fix. Worst case? This was a fun experiment.
 

Pappibri

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Thanks. Good job on yours, you should not have to worry about it for awhile now... Hey, if its covered then they can fix it... Paid that extra money for a reason.. My guy at the cadillac dealer was not in when I called, so I got some clown on the phone..He said trim is not covered..But I have the bumper to bumper its Certified so I just have to try my guy tomorrow.. They just replaced the window trim so I know that guy was full of crap... Thanks Alrock,
 

f5moab

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Thanks. Good job on yours, you should not have to worry about it for awhile now... Hey, if its covered then they can fix it... Paid that extra money for a reason.. My guy at the cadillac dealer was not in when I called, so I got some clown on the phone..He said trim is not covered..But I have the bumper to bumper its Certified so I just have to try my guy tomorrow.. They just replaced the window trim so I know that guy was full of crap... Thanks Alrock,

Nice, but two questions:
1. Did you put anythng on the threads to prevent water intrusion? (Probably not a big problem in AZ, but for others....)
2. For vehicles with side air curtains, caution on drilling through the pillar. Been awhile since I have screwed around inside the A pillar, but I'm almost positive the side air curtain anchor is in that pillar. (Plus some hot wires...)
 

alrock

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I haven't done anything to the threads - I'll probably use a bit of teflon tape there. There's another bolt I need to do it to as well and need to pick up a new roll.
 

06 H3

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Hey Alex, I know I am bumping this old old old thread but do you have a link to the nutsert tool and seeing you have had this done for over a year now I think its safe to say its been water tested even it the very rainy state of Arizona :). Have you had any leaks?
 
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