Aftermarket Wheels question

[amrg]

I'm interested in buying those set of wheels, to get a wider stance and fit them on a possible Rancho lift for the H3 in the future.

Im looking at 16x8 with 4.5" BS. I Want to keep a small wheel with a large tire. In addition, shipping to this part of the world ends up costing almost as much as the wheels

http://www.customwheelsdirect.com/html/wheels_brand/wheel_detail.php?id=68689

Would I have any issues with those wheels? And Does anyone have any pics of an H3 with those wheels?

 

[Bigunit]

The 4.5 backspacing is what is recommended for wheels after adding an after-market lift for the H3.

Check the hub bore on those wheels. The H3 OEM hub bore is 100.6. If they are smaller than that you will have to have the hole machined to get them to fit.

 

[Chook]

Go to www.Tirerack.com

On their website you can select the wheels your interested in & it can give you a picture of them on a H3. (Image from their site below on a Birch White H3 like Yours)

http://www.tirerack.com/a.jspa=EA6&...d=true&sw=1920&vehicleColorIndex=0&share=true

I would not ship them from the USA though if you can avoid it. I am sure if you take the details to a local store they can source it or something close (there are lots of things that could be wrong like bore size, offset, lug nuts, etc. so deal local where you can)

 

[amrg]

Tire rack is actually the ones Im dealing with. They claim it fits on the 3 but you need you may need a lifted truck to stop rubbing (says in notes: Aggressive fitment may require lift). But I'll double check on the wheel bore.

As for local, nothing here is made locally. Its either you have a dealer that imports this stuff or nothing, which is why I'd have to be going thro this process. Even the 35s on 16s I have I had to import from a different country, since they're not a standard size, and dealer here wouldnt even bother to get em on a special order.
So yeah...

 

[08SolarFlareH3]

The XD Hoss you posted should fit based on all the specs. They have a 4.48" back spacing (4.5" or less is required for the Rancho) and a hub bore of 106.25mm (100.6 is hub size on H3). You might get some rub under articulation until you do the lift (wheels are going to stick out a little over 1.75" more then the factory wheels). Mudbug has the same wheels on his H3 also, so you might want to PM him (I think he has a Rancho now too)

 

[amrg]

Im still debating on whether to get a 16" wheel or move up to a 17". Apparently 35s on 16s are no longer available in this region, so Im kinda pushed to get bigger wheels. 35s on 17s are available here thanks to H2 and Raptors. Question is, would 17x9 with -12 offset ( 4.5" B.S.) fit on stock/leveled setup without rubbing? I have the oem fender flares and mudflaps on the truck, not sure if those would be cleared as the wheels should push out almost 2 inches.

 

[08SolarFlareH3]

Im still debating on whether to get a 16" wheel or move up to a 17". Apparently 35s on 16s are no longer available in this region, so Im kinda pushed to get bigger wheels. 35s on 17s are available here thanks to H2 and Raptors. Question is, would 17x9 with -12 offset ( 4.5" B.S.) fit on stock/leveled setup without rubbing? I have the oem fender flares and mudflaps on the truck, not sure if those would be cleared as the wheels should push out almost 2 inches.

17" are probably the most common in the offroad scene these day. The 17x9 with a 4.5" back spacing is going to stick out over 2.75" more then the OEM wheel (1.5" because added with over OEM and 1.25"+ due to the less back spacing). Your most likely going to get rub under articulation with out a lift because the tire will no longer tuck into the wheel well and will make contact with the fender instead. The fender flares will probably make it worse, causing rub earlier.

 

[skippy]

if you go for the -12 (4.5") off set without a lift and run 35" tyres you will not be able to turn the front wheels!
if you want that to run 35" tyres you need to keep the standard -29 off set there will be a little bit of rubbing but only at full lock general operating will be fine.

 

[amrg]

if you go for the -12 (4.5") off set without a lift and run 35" tyres you will not be able to turn the front wheels!

Thats what Im worried about

if you want that to run 35" tyres you need to keep the standard -29 off set there will be a little bit of rubbing but only at full lock general operating will be fine.

The standard offset is +38 with stock wheels. I guess then I'd have to look at 17x8s instead. Would those also rub at 4.5" BS too? In general what could be the least offset I can do with on those wheels without a lift?

 

[skippy]

when you put 33" tyres on with the +12 (which equals 4.5") it doesn't rub if you have 35" on the standard +38 it does rub some on the sway bar at full lock.
if you increase the off set you widen the steering radius there causing the tyre to rub on the guard

 

[skippy]

"lift it to the sky fat chicks can't jump"

 

[amrg]

"lift it to the sky fat chicks can't jump"

I'd love to but a rancho would cost almost 4K buying, shipping and installing. This price does Not include wheels/spacers and tires!!! So figure I'd get 17s, add a body lift in the future and up the tires to 37s, would still be cheaper than buying the rancho lift alone!!! And apparently there are no issues fitting 37s on 8" wide wheels. People with JKs put 37s on 17x7.5 stock wrangler wheels without any issues.

Anyway Its the fender flares Im worried about rubbing. I put on a 1.5" spacer i borrowed on stock wheels with 35s and checked how they would do the other day. It eliminated rubbing completely on the sway bars, and doesnt rub at all on the fender flares with mud flaps. Although there was barely any room left with this setup. This means for an 8" wheel to fit the offset has to be at least +6mm . I think without the mudflaps you can go down to 0mm offset without any problems.

 

[Chook]

I think without the mudflaps you can go down to 0mm offset without any problems.

My wheels are 16x8 with 0mm Offset and I can confirm the 35's fit, but at full lock, the corner of the tyre hits the mudflap. (I have the Tbar @ 23.5")

 

[Timgco]

I had 17x9 XD Addicts on my 08. 16" wheels you will NOT find the proper backsapce on. 4.5" bs will have you rub with 33's and 35's will not come close to fitting without going to a 4" lift.

The backspace for this 9" wide wheel is 5.71". With 35's and the tbars bumped to 23.25", I could offroad them at full flex without issue.

 

[Timgco]

..and here is what a 4.5" bs wheel looks like...when I had the Rancho lift on my first H3. They stick out a bit.

 

[Timgco]

Also, the stock wheels are HUB Centric. Most aftermarket wheels you will find are lug centric. These XD wheels are lug centric. make sure you spend the extra $20 and buy the plastic hub centric rings for these wheels. They will center the wheel as they are torqued down. I had vvibration without the rings. Once the rings were added, they were perfect.

 

[Chook]

:yeahthat x2

I had a vibration with my 35's............. Part of the reason was no hub centric rings !!!!

 

[amrg]

Is there an advantage of the Billet Aluminum Hub-centric rings over the plastic ones? Motorsport tech makes them from the same material they make the billet spacers from Rancho lifted guys are using on their stock wheels and I was thinking of paying the extra on that.

http://motorsport-tech.com/hub_rings.html

 

[Chook]

Tougher/Stronger is not always better.......... Sometimes you have to think which part would I rather wear out quicker............. I have the plastic & it works fine & shouldn't wear with a nice snug fit and the lug nuts tight (but if they weren't I'd rather the plastic wear than my wheel hub as the ring is easier to replace)

 

[amrg]

I was only thinking that way due to the type of wheeling I do. Driving fast through gravel/sand as opposed to slow wheeling, wouldn't it be better for all that force on the wheel to be carried by both the lugs and the wheel hub like in the stock wheels setup? I think so

on a side question, anyone dealt with this site? www.mrwheeldeal.com ? Im planning on ordering my wheels thro them and mostly found positive reviews. Would like to know if anyone from here got anything from them.

 

[TheGunnyRet]

OEM tires: 265/75-16 (802x265mm). Big Hub.
32 x 10.5 x 16
Bolt OEM tires: 265/75-16 (802x265mm).
Bolt pattern: 6x139.7 (6x5.5).
Offset: 15 to 35 mm.
Tires up to 842x305mm.
Rims up to 26x10.0".
265/75R 16 = 32 X 10.50 X 16
265/70R 17 = 32 X 11.50 X 17
275/70R 17 = 32.50 X 11.00 X 17
285/60R 18 = 32 X 11 X 18