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Cummins 2.8l crate motor coming soon!

GreatDaneHummer

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For many of us that are thinking about repowering our H3's over the next few months this could be a viable option depending on price. Cummins is releasing a new 2.8l crate motor with all accessories. They show 160hp and 267lb-ft BUT a prototype was seen running 220hp and 380lb-ft making it more than powerful enough for the H3's needs. Food for thought.


https://cumminsengines.com/repower
 
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Wow. That sounds like a killer setup. Its about time. Around here Cummins is king and guys have been parting out Dodges and breadtrucks for years. Often times these motors have hundreds of thousands of miles, and they leak like hell (Cummins are famous for puddles)...but they still run great and make huge power. So most guys do a re-gasket, buy the adapters, and swap them into Fords, Chevys, Jeeps, and even 57 Belairs! Perhaps they will also offer the larger motors too? I've been flirting with a diesel re-power on my Suburban but, I don't want to do it twice...get it done and find out something isn't right and have to re-do it. So getting a re-power kit direct from Cummins would seal the deal. I think there is a huge market out there for such a kit, and its completely un-tapped. Its nice that its 50-state emission legal too. The new 2.8L fills a gap that has been missing in the diesel market, and small diesels have been overlooked for many years. To be able to purchase a new motor with accessories, stand-alone engine management computer, and throttle pedal...its a home run! We'll probably see these stuffed into everything.

Once again...GM is totally asleep at the wheel. If they had any clue at all, they would have realized this market and offered the Duramax line of diesels to tinker-savvy customers. Sad.

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I like the lower weight also. Some 300 plus lbs lower than the 4BT. There is a company currently running these now with a 5 speed manual and a selectable 2 wheel / 4 wheel drive setup and although prices have not been released they are only $3800 more expensive than their competitors with gas engines so to me this could be a very nice thing indeed. GM has been asleep at the wheel for years now producing more crap like the Traverse that should really be called a mini van with a lift.

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Wow. That sounds like a killer setup. Its about time. Around here Cummins is king and guys have been parting out Dodges and breadtrucks for years. Often times these motors have hundreds of thousands of miles, and they leak like hell (Cummins are famous for puddles)...but they still run great and make huge power. So most guys do a re-gasket, buy the adapters, and swap them into Fords, Chevys, Jeeps, and even 57 Belairs! Perhaps they will also offer the larger motors too? I've been flirting with a diesel re-power on my Suburban but, I don't want to do it twice...get it done and find out something isn't right and have to re-do it. So getting a re-power kit direct from Cummins would seal the deal. I think there is a huge market out there for such a kit, and its completely un-tapped. Its nice that its 50-state emission legal too. The new 2.8L fills a gap that has been missing in the diesel market, and small diesels have been overlooked for many years. To be able to purchase a new motor with accessories, stand-alone engine management computer, and throttle pedal...its a home run! We'll probably see these stuffed into everything.

Once again...GM is totally asleep at the wheel. If they had any clue at all, they would have realized this market and offered the Duramax line of diesels to tinker-savvy customers. Sad.

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This is the same engine that they put in Tubesock, the TJ Wrangler from Dirt Every Day. The one they drove underwater with a prototype and then later did a comparison between 3 diff TJs. Tubesock had a production 2.8L Cummins (vs the prototype previously used when they drove it underwater), one TJ had a 5.3 LS swap and one TJ had the factory 4.0L I6. Of course each TJ was modified differently, but the Cummins got ~17.9mpg, 5.3 got ~ 14.6mpg and the 4.0 got ~ 13.0mpg for 95 miles mixed mileage street, highway and off road.

It's supposed to be 330 lbs less than a 4bt so that's good, I'm just curious how much it is going to cost. the E-Rod LS3 is ~$10K and is 50 state emissions legal as well. Add on top of that any adapters, fab work to get install and I can easily see an additional 2 - 5K if done at a shop. so probably at least 7 - 15K for the average joe?
 
GreatDaneHummer

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Engine, Transmission and Transfer case together will be under $15k. Look at Foton Tunland Ute to get an idea: http://www.fotonmotors.com.au/foton/

$22490 for the entire truck shows that this 2.8l Cummins cannot be that expensive, especially since it is made in China and not a mainland Cummins production. We will see when they release it but I have high hopes for this offering.
 
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That engine package will north of 10k. $4700 is dreamin. New stripped 4bts are $8500.

If you want some real fun Google the banks 630t. That would be a great motor too. It too is priced out of range of mere mortals.

Less than half the cost of a swap is in the engine itself. IF you can do most of the work yourself.
 
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GreatDaneHummer

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That 630t Banks setup is pretty impressive. The size vs. power output in a finished package would be great in the H3. Thanks for pointing that out CaseyS
 
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CaseyS said:
That engine package will north of 10k. $4700 is dreamin. New stripped 4bts are $8500.

If you want some real fun Google the banks 630t. That would be a great motor too. It too is priced out of range of mere mortals.

Less than half the cost of a swap is in the engine itself. IF you can do most of the work yourself.
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Interesting.
That would be a mother to fit. Starter on the left side right about where your steering comes through, a/c compressor right where the steering box is.... in today's world, engine packages are square and the car is designed to accept that design.... but a problem with that is they simply don't fit in older vehicles. I also know of VM Motori - you'll remember them from such luminari vehicles as the diesel Liberty, and the Diesel Cherokee. I trust Gale Banks, but I don't trust the folks who built that motor... a conundrum

whatever you do - before you pull a trigger on this motor combo - go drive a Jeep Liberty with this motor in it.... some will like it, others... having a motor with no torque and no hp is kind of annoying.
 
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I test drove a smoker Jeep before I bought the 3. I hated it and others must have felt the same as me, they didn't sell very many. You would really have to love your 3 to put that kind of coin into it.
 
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I like oddball vehicles - so I bet eventually a smoker-Jeep will end up in m shop... but that said, Italians are known for many things, their engineering chops is not one of those things.
 
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