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Fuel Additive?

crank

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When I bought the H1, the guy told me he would pour a small bottle of 2 cylcle oil in every other tank full.
What's the deal? I'm pretty sure it won't gum up my spark plugs (seeing that it's a diesel and all) but what damage could that give me later? Should I be doing that or use something else?
TNX
 

LagunaH1

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I have never heard that recommendation.

What I *have* heard from several folks I trust, is to put half a quart of ATF in the tank ever so often to help keep things clean.
 

05Mudiak

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Yup I know lotof guys running 2stroke oil in thier diesels. Motors built prior to the ULSD need some extra lube so lots of guys run 2stroke oil. you can also run any diesel additive thats designed for lubification. @storke oil is just cheaper.

but yes lots of guys do it, get on any diesel truck forum and search


Not sure I would use ATF the cleaning it does my wash your cylider walls and you will slowly lose compression. That is one of the worst enemies of diesel engines. washing the cylinder walls. It also happenes to trucks where guy want to "roll coal" all the extra fuel they are pumping in is slowly washing down the cylinders which plays havoc on your rings.

I run additive in every tank in my D-max even though it's a 2008 and the motor is built for ULSD the extra lube helps the CP3 fuel pump big time from what I have heard from trust worthy guys and it deffinitly idles smoother
 
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hummech

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i was told by AM General and Stanadyne to run a half of quart of auto trans fluid in the front tank and the rear tanks depending on how much you drive at least once a month. i have been using it for 15 years and had Nike, Gatorade and outback steak house use it in their vehicles on every fill up and they were logging over 40k miles on their vehicle every year. the hummers ran flawless with no injection pump break downs. you add the auto trans fluid cleaning the injection pump and the injectors also for lubrication. the only thing that you need to be careful of is not to add too much to the fuel because the fuel will turn red and the optical sensor will have a hard time reading the toner wheel in the injection pump to set the timing.
 

crank

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Yeah, this is going to sound stupid, but I gots to make sure....
Is it half quart per tank or split the quart of ATF between the two tanks? Today I split the half quart.
Only do this once a month, correct?
Thanks Hummech!

i was told by AM General and Stanadyne to run a half of quart of auto trans fluid in the front tank and the rear tanks depending on how much you drive at least once a month. i have been using it for 15 years and had Nike, Gatorade and outback steak house use it in their vehicles on every fill up and they were logging over 40k miles on their vehicle every year. the hummers ran flawless with no injection pump break downs. you add the auto trans fluid cleaning the injection pump and the injectors also for lubrication. the only thing that you need to be careful of is not to add too much to the fuel because the fuel will turn red and the optical sensor will have a hard time reading the toner wheel in the injection pump to set the timing.
 

3Hummers

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Half to 2/3 of a quart in the main tank, half a quart in the auxiliary tank. I do it once in awhile or if I am not going to be driving the truck much for awhile. Many of the more expensive additives work well also.
 

DJinCO

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We should ask what about how the various additives in ATF interact with the combustion of diesel fuel. ATF is designed to remain stable as opposed to burning at tempurature and under pressure.

ATF is not providing all of the benefits that a true, high quality, diesel additive can provide. Specifically:

• Reduced emissions and black smoke
• Improved fuel stability
• Reduced varnish and sludge
Higher Cetane rating
• Superior fuel system and injector cleanliness
• Improved fuel filter life (cleaner fuel)
• Reduced buildup of static electrical charge (Safer)
• Reduced water entrainment
• Exceptional lubricity
• Improved fuel economy
Protection against low temperature gelling and icing

I know that the history of using ATF in diesel fuel has been around since the AT was designed. Remember, Rudolf Diesel ran his engine on 100% peanut oil. I know people have put ATF in gasoline. Folks, we can do anything once. Just remember that the billions of dollars spent on tribology (The science and engineering of interacting surfaces in relative motion. It includes the study and application of the principles of friction, lubrication and wear.) account for a small portion of the total cost transportation, and manufacturing in the USA.

I don't think that I would be willing to pour ATF into an engine that could cost $10K to repair. Your choice to add or not to add.

I wouldn't.
 

hummech

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there is no additive that does it all. the things that ware down the mechanical parts of a injection pump and injectors is the lubrication being cut down in the new diesel #2. there is diesel additives that are made for anti- gel, some just clean injectors and some add cetane for performance. you pick what you need. i would not use anti gel in so. cal. because we don't get cold weather here. if i wan't performance i like the ford cetane boost additive and for lubricating and cleaning i would go with the manufactures of the injection pumps and the manufacture of the injectors and the vehicle it's self. ATF is what is recommended and if i need to do a warranty repair on any of these items, all the manufactures honor their warranty with ATF as a additive. stanadyne has their addative to which covers a lot of those things but still like the ATF. we are a 6 time score off road champions and have had no issues with the fuel systems using ATF. I would use 1/2 trans fluid in the front tank and the other half in the rear tank and fill with diesel. this is my expert opion.
 

3Hummers

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On Mike's recommendation I have been adding ATF to my Hummer's fuel for a couple of years now with no issues. If AMG, Stanadyne and Mike recommend it that works for me.
 
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