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HUMMER H3 SUV 2 Door....has it been done yet?

jimmy p

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I have been tossing the idea around.....quick photoshop attached. I've seen the suv to truck conversions but wondering if anyone has seen this done? Longer fixed glass, gas tank, frame rails, suspension and rear seat would be some work but it would be unique!
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No. But it looks like a fun project!! Love it!! What are your metalworking skills? It really wouldn't be any more difficult than any other 'custom' or street rod if you've done one of those before. You could sell the rear doors to help fund the project.

You might want to play around with photoshop to see what it would look like with maybe a couple more inches behind the front door. Play with different ideas. It looks juuuuuuust a schootch short to my eye. I might add a couple more inches behind the driver's door. YMMV. I've seen a number of 'shortened' projects in real life where if they're too short they can look like clown-cars. ha ha. Something you want to avoid. But obviously personal preference. A good parallel might be the Bronco 2dr & 4dr's to compare.

Another 'trick' approach a guy might consider to fill that gap the 'easy' way might be to add a short 3rd (hinged) driver's access door from, say, a Colorado pickup (or S10 pickup) ...with matching outer sheet metal of course. Or not.. just throwing out ideas. Looks like a fun project.

What are the chances you'll do it?
 
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Jeepwalker

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Not trying to hijack your thread, but my plan one of these years is to fab up a H3T Concept (below), minus the short-haired chick. Then get rid of my over-bloated full-sized pickup :giggle::

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jimmy p

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the H3T concept is awesome and if I could use a 2 seater more often I would probably go that route too. I have been playing with the dimensions trying to avoid the clown car effect but now that even Jeeps are almost all 4 doors, almost everything looks like a clown car/short bus in a 2dr version to me from the side.2dbronco.JPG
 
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Jeepwalker

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Thumbs up on this projet!!

You know ...after your initial post, every time I look at my H3 I start to see how your idea would look really good (as a 2-dr). How are your fabrication skills? LOL. It would be a really simple shortening job in comparison to some street rod projects. But it's the same kind of work as a street rod where you're shortening the frame and body. Re-work part of the interior.

If you haven't done projects like this, maybe you can ask around who the old-timer street rod guys are in your area. There are quite a few out there. Esp up in Detroit I bet there are tons of street rod guys. There was a time in the early 90's when hard-core street rodding was really hot. At the time I was the young guy in the crowd who did a lot of welding and the more grunt-ier work. But I learned a ton. Well these guys are now retired and get together regularly for lunches, etc. Most of the guys I know who are retired, have pretty nice shops too full of tools, welders, benders etc that don't get used much anymore (if you don't have a work area). If you are a good fabricator, go for it. If not, try to befriend one of these street rod guys in like his 60's or early 70's who's got ambition and wouldn't mind getting involved in a project ..more from a mentoring standpoint. ...and not too worried about money, or getting paid for every hour. (you do the grunt work). They might really enjoy getting into a project where they can use their experience and you do the work LOL. If you had to pay someone for the whole job, you would be talking a lot of money. Of course, if you didn't mind forking out some money to have a guy rough it out for you, that could make it easier too. Esp now heading into winter (lot of shops don't mind taking on a long-term winter project to keep their workers busy when crash work gets low).

I think I'd start by figuring out the side glass size and scout the junkyards for a piece that matches close to what you need. That's the one component you can't easily fabricate -- You can't cut tempered glass. There were 2-dr troopers and explorers, Blazers, etc. It needs to be relatively short. These old country salvage yards where they don't crush everything are the place to go. You actually COULD fabricate that piece if you wanted to jump through a lot of hoops. Or I'm sure you can custom-order a piece of curved glass too (I bet there are places). In my professional career I used to call on a major glass factory doing mechanical/engineering work for them. I've walked through their tempering ovens a number of times where they curve glass and temper it afterwards. (Correction, you walk on a cat walk *along-side* the oven and peer inside through the inspection glass -- ha ha). What they do is have an in-house fabricator make up a frame out of metal rod of the radius the glass needs to be. It's really simple; they just casually bend some 3/8" rod the radius the finished glass needs to be, and weld them as curved supports under the flat glass (they start with), about every 6" or so apart to 'catch' the glass when it begins to melt. After it melts to the curve it needs to be it gets tempered with compressed air that shoots out of jets as the glass moves along a conveyor belt (steel belt) in the melting/temporing oven. You gotta select the right color tinting too. But it's not that high-tech actually.

I used to call on and do engineering projects for factories of all types: Food, automotive, ag, plastics, you name it ..for 20+ years and was good friends with plant managers. In factories, most of the time they're doing something nobody has really done so it's like: "...here's what we want to do, what are your ideas to get there?" Since I was their 'solutions-guy' we had good relationships. They would always show me what they were doing and new projects they were working on (or things we were figuring out for them). At the end of a tour it would usually end with a "...but this is all proprietary information so don't tell anyone." lol. So if you have questions, maybe I could provide some insight.

So what are your next steps, anyway?
 
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jimmy p

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Thanks for the feedback. I have the tools and enough experience with metalwork to handle the cutting and welding. I would like to minimize the body work and paint as it would be getting scratched up offroad. Glass would be the major concern as you pointed out, I could do some sort of acrylic or even gloss black removable aluminum inserts also. I think I would need to get a frame jig setup to ensure everything stays square especially if I section from the center of the frame.

I have a spare h3 in my possession now so I would probably do all of the cutting on it, then transfer everything over from my SAS LS2 swapped rig. The only problem is lack of time, space and too many projects already.
 

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Yeah, well, sounds good. That would be a nice rig. You'll have to keep us up on the project. Take your measurements to the salvage yards. We have a few large ones by us that would take 1/2 day (at least) to comb through. A guy would think there would be something out of like a Isuzu Rodeo or a small SUV, Van, etc. Or talk to a few good glass shops and see what their sources are. Maybe there's a source in Hemmings. Good glass places frequently order lots of different kinds of glass custom cut, tempered, drilled, tinted, shaped and so on to exact measurements and specs. Maybe they can do radius'd too.

Nice to have the spare H3. I had a chance to buy an 06 a couple yrs ago for $1800, the owner was even going to trailer it to my place. Good deal, but I let the deal go for variety of reasons but sometimes I kick myself ...ha ha. Good luck..
 
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not a bad project idea. about 15yrs ago, i contemplated something similar: turning a 4door Colorado into a baby Suburban.
this one could start by welding the rear doors shut, shaving over the body gaps, and installing new side glass (as procured above). probably would have to make new front seat rails that slide farther forward to allow better rear seat access (or get rid of the rear bench).
 

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the H3T concept is awesome and if I could use a 2 seater more often I would probably go that route too. I have been playing with the dimensions trying to avoid the clown car effect but now that even Jeeps are almost all 4 doors, almost everything looks like a clown car/short bus in a 2dr version to me from the side.View attachment 27991
The H3 needs the rear axle pushed back 5-8 inches, to reduce the rear overhangs and to not look so squished. Look at how the Bronco looks more proportioned. Plus the added wheelbase to a short vehicle is a huge help.

By the time you do all this and the time & expense, you could probably buy a new 2 door Bronco.

Btw the glass would not be the Al hardest part to source as the glass is flat. Lots of guys take the older full sized “OJ” Broncos and stretch them to get more wheelbase to make as a Prerunner. They stretch the rear side windows and get cut to made glass with no problems .
 

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I can't remember if Al did his conversion to a 2 door or kept the 4 door configuration. He did a slantback conversion on his. Awesome truck.
 

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That looks great (above) Who did that? More pics??

You have to look at it like a street-rod project, or a Custom. If you have the fab skills and a shop, it's not any harder than chopping the top of a street rod. Or doing any major sheet metal fab job. And the frame, ya just cut the frame and section in a piece (in a Z-Cut) to get yer length. If ya want to custom-make a box there are shops which will form metal for ya. Or start with a box from another truck and fab however you want.

Yep, if you're paying someone to do it, then, yeah, might as well buy a bronco. But then you have ....a bronco. It's a labor of love kind of thing, or deep pockets. If I were doing one for myself, the box would have to be 6.5' or so. Gotta be useful. And 48.5" between the wells to haul plywood or sheet rock. I haven't measured to see if a guy can get 48" between the wheels... Pretty sure ya can.

More pics?
 
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jimmy p

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Btw the glass would not be the Al hardest part to source as the glass is flat. Lots of guys take the older full sized “OJ” Broncos and stretch them to get more wheelbase to make as a Prerunner. They stretch the rear side windows and get cut to made glass with no problems .
H3 rear glass isn't flat. I have a project ongoing to replace the rear glass with a steel flip up access door and had to add a bit of curve to make it look good. Not saying flat glass wouldn't work bit I don't think it would look factory on a stretch project.
 

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If you wanted to go curved glass, there are places advertised in Hemmings which can make custom curved auto glass. Some street rod guys go that route after they 'chop' a car. Or scavange the salvage yards with measurements in hand. You might likely find one that works perfect for your application.
 

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About two weeks ago, I saw a white one in the Detroit area. It was at a stoplight, so I wasn't able to see it close. Looked like an H3, side rear door welded up, and the top was cut off starting behind the drivers seat. I don't think the wheelbase was shortened.
 

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And By The Way No Frame Work Was Done on this One… Original Rear Window Just moved Forward, H3T Tailgate as well as the bed liner from H3T , Same H3 Rear Bumper
 

jimmy p

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Also curious if they were able to get h3t rear fender flares to fit in the h3 wheel well in your rig. They were about an inch off when I mocked it up.
 

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along these lines: i'd also started wondering what an "H3 Suburban" would be like... as in making a 3-row SUV out of an H3T.
 
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