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Lifted hummer now wheels are cambered

skowronski6.4

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I recently did a 3in lift on my 06 hummer h3 and my front wheels are cambered , I got an alignment but they are still very cambered, is there anything I can buy or adjust to fix it ?


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MTUH3

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Sounds like just an indexing torsion bar lift, you will not be able to lift your truck that far and get it to align. My truck is just out of spec where I have mine set up at. There might be a little more adjustment to be found if you start grinding and cutting bits, but I wouldn't suggest that.

Only way to get 3" lift and have it align is with a true lift kit, ie Rancho, which will have a lot more parts than you described.
 

Babyjohn460

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Would have to agree with 4speedfunk. When I lifted mine (3" non-Rancho), the techs only wanted to set the toe and let it go. Front end was a mess even after the "alignment". There IS enough adjustment for 3", but not 4". Took it to a different shop and everything (within reason) is straight.


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Babyjohn460

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Speaking of Rancho lifts, has anyone ever pieced together a lift with a front axle drop, without purchasing the entire Rancho kit? Would like to drop front axle .5"-1.0" but not 100% sure if I can just get the drop down brackets for the front of the axle, then space the rear axle mount to match front. Or if I would also need to get the cross members, draglink extenders, spindles, ect... Basically trying to make the front end as close to true as possible without dropping close to $2000 on a kit, where I wouldn't need the majority of the components. (FYI, my lift consists of lift shackles, torsion crank, shocks, and wheels spacers on front only.)


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4speedfunk

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Knuckles are the problem....they're cast (or probably forged). Everything else can be measured, copied, drawn up on cad, cut with a laser, and welded up.
Drag-link extenders not needed since there is no drag link.
As with all Hummer parts, there is seldom enough of a market to recoup the tooling cost.
 

MTUH3

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Yes, knuckles will be the hard part. you could try making longer control arms, but then you will run into getting new torsion springs and halfshafts. tie rods are not that bad to make / find
 

Babyjohn460

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I'm sorry, sway bar links, not drag link. However, I was more thinking of ala' carte-ing the few Rancho components needed to lower front axle to get better cv shaft angles. Don't really wanna go taller, just more reliability. In contact with Rancho now on pricing..


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4speedfunk

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I totally had the chance to copy the Rancho kit years ago. I can easily transfer all the bracketry to CAD and make as many as desired. But the knuckles were the wrench in the plan. You could conceivably carve them from a solid billet (CNC mill), and use a combination of welding....and get the same basic thing. That would be quite a project but, far cheaper than sourcing a foundry to do the casting. It simply doesn't make financial sense to mess with the IFS. Maybe it would if you could just replace the pumpkin with something stronger. But the topic always migrates far deeper, like a snow-ball rolling down a mountain. Before long you're making control arms, half-shafts, steering racks, knuckles, crossmembers, coil-over swaps, blah blah blah. Ultimately, all roads leaving the H3 IFS end up at the same destination...FULL TILT CUSTOM! Trust me. Cut it all off...or leave it stock. There is no middle ground.

Back to the O.P.:
I've had very good luck doing alignments at home in my garage. I use some string, a carpenter's square, a level, and an angle finder. I find the old-school NASCAR method of alignment to be more accurate than most shops. They got the equipment but, rarely the brains to use it. So you end up paying for an alignment, that is inferior to what you can achieve on your own with simple hand tools and a flat concrete slab. DIY for piece of mind.
 

MTUH3

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4speed is right on the alignment, but there is a limit to what you can get on the camber plates. So if you are at a hard stop, you are as far as you can go. But that is when you index your torsion bars far beyond where they should be.....

I say pull the uppers out as far as you can, as see what it looks like. even if it went too far, and you want a shop to do it... you are already at the limit, so they should be smart enough to be able to back it off the hard stop. But on a good note, if / when my alignment does get knowcked out of whack.... I just pull the control arms out as far as they go, no need to screw around
 
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