H3Hummer
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Very nice black one
Being bolted to the legs can't the slider pivot off the legs allowing the slider to shift up into the body? If it bolted together up and down, not side to side, it would fix that.
Unless I am not seeing the part that would prevent it from shifting upwards. Cool design and nice to see you still making new things for the H3.
I apologize, I should have used the term bracket. What prevents the slider from pushing upwards off the bracket. Is sheer clamping force of the bolt between the bracket and slider preventing the slider from moving upwards?I believe there must be a misunderstanding regarding the design. The term ‘legs’ is unclear. The rock sliders consist of four primary components: brackets, ribs, a step plate, and a skid plate. To maximize the strength-to-weight ratio, I’ve designed an I-beam-like structure. Be assured that these sliders are designed to maintain their position and will not shift upward. I'm confident that the resulting rock sliders will exceed the original design in terms of stability and durability.
I apologize, I should have used the term bracket. What prevents the slider from pushing upwards off the bracket. Is sheer clamping force of the bolt between the bracket and slider preventing the slider from moving upwards?
Example, can you set the height of the slider, off the bracket or is it preset by keying into other components?
If you come down on a rock extremely hard what is preventing the slider from shifting upwards? The tension of 2 pieces bolted together or does the leg key into the slider to make it act like 1 unit
I like the modular design, makes for personalizing it easier. For me the aluminum wouldn't last, rocks eat them up pretty quick. I have plenty of friends with alu skids and they get gouged bad. The extra bracket and extra vertical braces seem like they would help distribute the load. Are going to sell the brackets alone as an option?The two 2 Hex Flanged 3/8-16 Grade 8 Bolts you circled in yellow don't allow the rib to move. The hole has maybe 0.01 of an inch of clearance for the bolt to move.
I like the modular design, makes for personalizing it easier. For me the aluminum wouldn't last, rocks eat them up pretty quick. I have plenty of friends with alu skids and they get gouged bad. The extra bracket and extra vertical braces seem like they would help distribute the load. Are going to sell the brackets alone as an option?
Brackets would for those that wish to build the complete slider from steel and to change the design that best suits their needs. Some like the rails close to the body, others like myself like to have them stick out further to protect the expensive doors and fenders from rocks, walls & trees. Also used as a ideal step for reaching the roof rack without having to be a ballerina (tuu tuu's and camping don't mix).Currently, there are no plans to sell the brackets alone but a plan to sell replacement parts is in the works. I'm curious how just the brackets could be useful to you? I have been thinking about the possibility for the summer of 2025 having the option for a steel and aluminum combo of 1/8 steel backed by 1/4 aluminum skid plates for those who think they can destroy my rock sliders. However, I have two thoughts having said that. First, most people need to hold a chunk of 5052 3/8-inch thick aluminum and realize how excessive it feels. Second, as long as the part does its job and demonstrates its durability, gouges should be looked upon as badges of honor. For example, I don't want a knight in shining armor. I want a banged-up, dirty, and well-used knight in armor because I know that they've been dragged through hell and survived.
While 5052 3/8 may feel excessive. I can promise you it is not. I had rocky road sliders and bent the hell out of them. So, I got a new set, and with an exo cage tying into the frame in multiple spots and also taking load from the slider at the A and B pillar applying it to the cage. I still bent the rocky road sliders.Currently, there are no plans to sell the brackets alone but a plan to sell replacement parts is in the works. I'm curious how just the brackets could be useful to you? I have been thinking about the possibility for the summer of 2025 having the option for a steel and aluminum combo of 1/8 steel backed by 1/4 aluminum skid plates for those who think they can destroy my rock sliders. However, I have two thoughts having said that. First, most people need to hold a chunk of 5052 3/8-inch thick aluminum and realize how excessive it feels. Second, as long as the part does its job and demonstrates its durability, gouges should be looked upon as badges of honor. For example, I don't want a knight in shining armor. I want a banged-up, dirty, and well-used knight in armor because I know that they've been dragged through hell and survived.
While 5052 3/8 may feel excessive. I can promise you it is not. I had rocky road sliders and bent the hell out of them. So, I got a new set, and with an exo cage tying into the frame in multiple spots and also taking load from the slider at the A and B pillar applying it to the cage. I still bent the rocky road sliders.
From there I used the rocky road sliders but cut the 1x1 .188 wall brackets/legs off of them and used (7) 1.5x3 .25wall legs and welded them to the frame. It worked for a year or so but I actually cracked the frame. So all of it came off. welded up the crack.
I did big 3/16 frame plates to distribute the load. then 1.5x3 legs again but then pie cut another 1.5x3 leg and welded the two together to give the legs more strength. That welded to 2x4 .25wall "sliders." Finally after 6 years they are still as straight as they were when I put them on. No cracks at the frame, no bending, no issues.
With that said, I understand the H3 market, does not want or need a weld on option, they do not need beef as much as that but the point of my post is that every time I thought it was sufficent, it wasn't. Bolting aluminum parts together that do not key into each other makes me curious about how they will hold up. 5052 may feel excessive but once you lay a 6k lb rig on it, it wont feel excessive.