BPM an BTM the same?

[Highatop]

Ok, not sure but, Is BPM the same for us H3s as for H1s BTM? Brake and gas petal to stop wheel spin, right or wrong?

 

[alrock]

Yes, same procedure.

 

[deserth3]

Yes, same procedure.

Hate to disagree with you. But the H3 is different. On the H3 you hold the RPM at a steady rate and traction control will sense the the wheels slipping and start pulsing the brakes. Can't remember the RPM off hand. Someone help here?

 

[LagunaH1]

Same procedure... This topic is also a HUGE can of worms... there are LOTS of opinions as to if / how BTM / BPM works on an H3

 

[3Hummers]

Or if it even works at all.

 

[06 H3]

lol yep...a big can of worms.

I never heard of BPM though, I may call it that just to argue that its not BTMing like an H1 its BPMing!

 

[3Hummers]

Brake pedal modulation?

 

[LagunaH1]

Brake pedal modulation?

Kinda sounds like something I read about with regards to H1's: Some believe it's better to regulate the truck's crawling speed by varying the pressure on the brake pedal as opposed to the throttle

 

[08H3]

Oh my....Pandora's Box has been opened....again.

 

[alrock]

Hate to disagree with you. But the H3 is different. On the H3 you hold the RPM at a steady rate and traction control will sense the the wheels slipping and start pulsing the brakes. Can't remember the RPM off hand. Someone help here?

Desert, I think we're talking about pressing the brake and the accelerator at the same time, thus manually applying the brakes to limit wheelspin. And by applying the brakes, you automatically override the traction control. So, if the OP is talking something else then I could be way off base.

Note to everyone: notice I didn't touch the topics of effectiveness, or how the technology gets applied, or any of that stuff. I just said "Yeah, brake and gas at the same time".

 

[Highatop]

Oh my....Pandora's Box has been opened....again.

Ok, we can close the box. Just came up in a reply. Thanks

 

[Hans3T]

Uh-ohhh....

GIFSoup

 

[08H3]

Ok, we can close the box. Just came up in a reply. Thanks

No worries. It's just that the last time that subject came up, it got a little out of hand.

 

[deserth3]

Desert, I think we're talking about pressing the brake and the accelerator at the same time, thus manually applying the brakes to limit wheelspin. And by applying the brakes, you automatically override the traction control. So, if the OP is talking something else then I could be way off base.

Note to everyone: notice I didn't touch the topics of effectiveness, or how the technology gets applied, or any of that stuff. I just said "Yeah, brake and gas at the same time".

Yes, I knew exactly what your talking about. And yes you can BTM a H3. I was trying to point out you don't need to. The H3 will see the slip and start applying the brakes automaticaly. All you have to do is hold the RPM steady. IMO it works better if you let the truck do it and puts less strain on the drive train.

 

[alrock]

Cool, we're on the same page then . . . except, I tried using TC on Hell's Gate and I immediately slid off the wall as any wheelspin before the TC kicked in led to disaster. Using BTM helped me better control the wheelspin and climb right up.

That said, I still use TC often in other situations.

 

[jakesz28]

Alrock, I agree. I have only wheeled in Moab and hard rock once. But there are times the traction control is priceless. But other times it did not work so well and I had to hold the brake pedal. Different situations call for different measures. I have videos were the traction control in mud on tree roots was the way to go. But I prefer being able to lock the axles I want to pull thru the situation on demand.

 

[Highatop]

Ok, I tryed closin the box or can. Now, My next question is...The clickin I hear when, mostly climbin. Is the TC workin and not a bad thin. I do try and stop that when I hear it but only after the fact and do not let my wheels spin to much. That was w/ 285s A/Ts. Now have 315s Duratracs and have not really used them wheelin yet, Snow yes w/ the tires and happy so far.
I'm not tryin to start trouble. But...

 

[alrock]

If you're looking at slow, steady throttle then yes, that's likely the TC working. It uses the ABS to minimize or stop wheelspin.

 

[LagunaH1]

X 2 on what alnico said. TC working sounds a lot like AB'S working.

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