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H3 ReGear diff

Sennin

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Ok ive been running the V8 with the stock 4.1 diff ratios for a while now and with the 35" and the newly acquired 1.6ton caravan its time for regearing to the 4.56 ratios as in the I5.

Which crownwheel and pinion fabrication/make is the best? And where can I purchse them online?

Also can I attempt to do it as a DIY job or rather spend the money on people claiming to be professional and do the job?


Thanks for the feedback guys
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amrg

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My friend who regears wranglers continously recommends yukon gear & axle as the best to use. Not sure if there is better...
 

4speedfunk

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Yukon, USGear, and GM all make gears for both axles. The front may be tough to find but, the 8.6 rear is very common. I have a set of used 4.56 GM gears (31,000 miles) for the rear in perfect condition...$100USD. They came out of my H3 when I swapped to 5.13s. Everything I've taken out of front diffs has been broken (big surprise).

Swapping the gears is not too big of a deal, especially if you keep the same carriers and bearings. You'll need:

-a bearing plate
-a shop press
-dial-calipers
-dial-indicator (with a magnetic base)
-a torque wrench (30-150 ft-lbs range)
-an inch-pound torque wrench (with a dial on it)
-a large pipe wrench (to hold the yoke while you crush the new sleeve)
-a few basic hand tools
-marking compound
-loc-tite

If you can get your pinion bearings off in one piece...you can simply press them onto the new pinion gear with the same shim-stack, assemble it, check the lash and pattern. Most of the time you'll be spot on but, sometimes you need to add or subtract a pinion shim to get the correct wear pattern on the teeth. You can leave the carrier bearings alone...just keep the shims & races in the correct order. Again, you may have to make a slight shim adjustment to get the lash correct. If you want to change bearings, you may have to buy a special tool to remove & install the pinion races into the casting. A case spreader is not needed. Set-up bearings are nice but not necessary. TIP: Check the butt-end of the pinion gears for a hand-written (or etched) number. This is the pinion depth dimension, and you can compare the number on the existing pinion against the number on the new pinion...and add/remove shims to keep the same depth. This works great and saves you a bunch of measuring and guesswork when setting the pinion depth.
 

Sennin

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Great stuff, thanks for the info so far. 4 speedfunk I will take you up on your offer. For the rear ring and pinion. Can you perhaps help in sourcing the front as well? I.e if I get it online have it shipped to you and then having you ship to me in South Africa?
 

Sennin

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gmpartsoutlet or similar company - buy GM gears.

crownwheel - it took me a moment to realize you were talking about a ring gear lol
Sorry bout that. Different terms from different worlds [emoji12].

Will definately try and find them online. Perhaps gmpartswarehouse or something simmiliar
 

backcountryislife

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http://www.yukongear.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProdID=1076

Can't say I'd see any reason to not go Yukon over GM... it's not as if the GM R&P has shown to be anything special, maybe the yukon would do better.

Btw, I've had a few buddies do gears on their Heeps, and I'd take it to someone who does them often (here in CO, there are literally dozens of shops that are known for doing quality work) I've seen a number of them have problems by DIY or "my buddy who knows how to do it did them".

The labor isn't that much if you source all the parts.
 

SuperBuickGuy

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Sorry bout that. Different terms from different worlds [emoji12].

Will definately try and find them online. Perhaps gmpartswarehouse or something simmiliar

gmpartswarehouse, and gmpartsoulet both tend to have pretty good deals on parts - best of all, I think the outlet one is having free shipping for the 4th of July holiday (you have to pretend you're an American, though, to get the deal - so no crown gears or tyres for you today :))

http://www.yukongear.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProdID=1076

Can't say I'd see any reason to not go Yukon over GM... it's not as if the GM R&P has shown to be anything special, maybe the yukon would do better.

Btw, I've had a few buddies do gears on their Heeps, and I'd take it to someone who does them often (here in CO, there are literally dozens of shops that are known for doing quality work) I've seen a number of them have problems by DIY or "my buddy who knows how to do it did them".

The labor isn't that much if you source all the parts.

I used Yukon gear in the front of my H3 when I blew it up - it seems to be working fine, however, they're local to me so if it does blow up and they don't warranty the part I can do more than just b*tch at them on the phone.
 

Sennin

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It's a real struggle to get companies to ship overseas. still trying to get some decent prices on gears + shipping
 

amrg

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Try bongo shipping, they will give you a local US address to ship to and they will forward them directly to you.
If the supplier has an account with them, u'll get discounted shipping rates
 

Sennin

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Try bongo shipping, they will give you a local US address to ship to and they will forward them directly to you.
If the supplier has an account with them, u'll get discounted shipping rates
Thanks will have a look in the morning. Im off to bed now.
 
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