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Hummers not involved with hazaradous airbags

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SedonaBound

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I was curious so I checked on models that got air bags with the "shrapnel" problem. No Hummer model is listed. Thought I'd post it.
 

f5moab

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That switch brings back memories since we at Saturn used it first and told GM it was crap and they went ahead with it. Oh well, the old days are gone.

GM was pretty split between truck and car engineering. Not that some products weren't shared (primarily powertrain and electronics), but in some cases, they went totally different paths.

But I am in no way implying that the H3 switch does not have problem, but any switch can have problems.
 

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One problem I've seen over the years is people with extreme key rings, 2Lb of keys and they wonder why the ignition switch failed... I keep it simple with just a house key, remote, and H3 key. Rest of the keys are either on my side, in the center console, or my pocket.
 

f5moab

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I will agree, GM says to limit the number of keys and trinkets on a key ring. But I have to admit, I did not do that for many years and never had any problems. Two FOBS, including one large Python FOB with a screen, and at least seven or eight keys, and a few other trinkets. But those switches under recall are really sensitive to the weight of the keys/ring/trinkets. I told a woman I used to work, for her and her daughters, to ONLY use the ignition key in her HHR until the switch is replaced.
 

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The H3 ignition is definitely affected but because the key and fob are slightly different in balance/weight, they will not cause the unexpected shutdown. However, an overloaded fob may still cause issues. Same with an aftermarket key. Hence why we have not seen a recall for the Hummer though I predict it will be included possibly in 2015.
 

f5moab

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The H3 ignition is definitely affected but because the key and fob are slightly different in balance/weight, they will not cause the unexpected shutdown. However, an overloaded fob may still cause issues. Same with an aftermarket key. Hence why we have not seen a recall for the Hummer though I predict it will be included possibly in 2015.

It is a different switch, made to different specs than those on the recall. And what exactly is an "overloaded fob?" The fob is the remote and most are the same size; although the one I have from my aftermarket system is a lot larger and heavier than the factory fob. If you are talking about an overloaded key ring, it can cause any ignition switch on any vehicle made with a steering column switch to possible turn off when a bump is hit. I believe all manufacturers warn their customer to not overload the key ring.

I know for a fact that my key ring for almost six years weighed in at about 2 lbs and never had a problem. And I drove on some bumpy surfaces at times.

I also know that the switch in the recall had a habit of turning and shutting down the vehicle when it was first released on the Saturn ION, with a few keys on the ring, and that we submitted many requests for a change to GM engineering to have the switch revised to no avail. And many of those requests were signed by me as well as my boss and many more up the ladder.

But GM in all their wisdom thought we were full of sh&t and went ahead and produced more and put them on more vehicles. And then someone had the great idea to revise the switch but he retained the exact same part number, so now there are vehicles under recall that have the new revised switch but no one can verify it so the vehicle is under recall and the switch will someday be replace. He was the engineering that was fired; not for the redesign, but for failing to obtain a new part number for a new revised part.
 
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