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Replacing transmission & hubby says "BITE ME".

bendyprissy

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So we decided to replace the transmission & hubby wanted me to tell you GM designers "BITE ME" for designing the transmission housing as a solid unit with an opening big enough for a girl scout to put her hands through to remove the dang torque converter bolts! He hopes the fleas of a thousand camels infest your crotch.

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scoreh3

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I've always said that people who design things should have to work on it when they are done . I bet if that was a law things would be designed a whole lot better .
 

4speedfunk

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Gm's sole goal is to make a vehicle that can get past the 36k mile warranty. Period! Any engineering beyond this goal is strictly coincidental.
 
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SedonaBound

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Repair access has been way down on the auto designer's list for decades; about as long ago as the ancient 4L60 trans was designed.
 
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woodwardsh3

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Try working on a ford product, I tell my kids and grand son if you buy a ford I am not working on it.It lest with gm there is a lot of inter changeable parts which keeps the cost down.
 

SuperBuickGuy

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no one buys a car for the "great accessibility" of engine components, just sayin'.

and just maybe if your husband knew how to drive a car, he wouldn't have to be under it fixing it.... just sayin' :shame:
 

rsc

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no one buys a car for the "great accessibility" of engine components, just sayin'.
Yes, people still look for it. Unfortunately the designers don't want to listen because they are packaging little marvels of engineering for us and the younger generations have no clue how nice it used to be. (and still could be if anyone even cared to design for it)
 
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It's all going electric anyway, so it will probably be pop clips for the parts and a handheld remote control (hmmm... Sounds an awful like my kids RC cars) oh yeah, and they will drive themselves too!
 
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SedonaBound

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Yes, people still look for it. Unfortunately the designers don't want to listen because they are packaging little marvels of engineering for us and the younger generations have no clue how nice it used to be. (and still could be if anyone even cared to design for it)
Maybe, but I'll take the 200K mile dependability of the average new car/truck in heartbeat over the easy-to-fix (because they always needed it) crap that Detroit used to peddle.
 
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SuperBuickGuy

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Yes, people still look for it. Unfortunately the designers don't want to listen because they are packaging little marvels of engineering for us and the younger generations have no clue how nice it used to be. (and still could be if anyone even cared to design for it)

On my FJ40verland build, I just took 2" out of the transmission tunnel... just sayin' :)
 

3Hummers

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In some cases it seems engineers design things to encourage people to just take it back to the dealership. If you look there are frequently easier ways to do things than first seem apparent but I have to say that there are a lot of things that just make me shake my head. I have never had a newer vehicle that went 200K without needed repair work done on it. Ever. I still prefer the older, easier to work on vehicles. Crap goes wrong with new cars every day and once they are 5 years old and out of warranty guess what...crap starts going wrong more often. Dealerships love that the cars are more complex and that most people don't even try to work on them anymore.
 
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SedonaBound

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Design engineers are far more interested in assembly ease for the line than in providing in repair access for the 2nd or 3rd owner at 100K miles. The percentage of owners who do DIY mechanical repairs is tiny; DIYer trans repairs are rarer than Bigfoot. Commercial equipment is a very different; repairability is a serious consideration. We're still a lot better off than in the 60s-70s when planned obsolescence was the order.
 

SuperBuickGuy

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It's really hard to generalize on manufacturers or even on product lines. Jeeps are very easy to work on, but of course, are.... ummmm... there's not a lot of substance to them - thus disassembly is pretty easy. Yesterday I was removing a wiring harness from a Chevrolet Caprice - a car with a voluminous engine compartment and trans tunnel, and was really frustrated because the distributor-hold-down-bolt was welded to the manifold and utterly inaccessible.... Of course, the car ran just fine until it was t-boned - so would more space be really that important?
 
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