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So I searched and found this thread:
H3 BCM Bypass/Delete
Here are some of the quotes from that thread that would apply to my inquiry:
I've read some threads on PBB too and learned a little more: BCM's are heat sensitive, condensation sensitive, blah, blah blah. I saw some tupperware tricks, pelican case options, one of my friends used a tupperware container and put a vent tube on the top of it.
Still I think moving it is the best option. From the photo that Recon posted got me thinking (yeah i know....dangerous).
Would a company like Painless Wiring be able to make an adapter kit or a plug in extension to move the Harness up to the glove box or even up the A pillar to the headliner?
I have a spare BCM (well - it's actually a fried one) that I could fit a container around. Then venting it out the A pillar or even to the glove box for simplified access and protection. As long as it is vented it could help with cooling and prevent any condensation. Sealing the the plugs with Dialectic grease and siliconing the holes for the harnesses.
Might be just as tedious as relocating it, but having half doors and water crossings in my future is making me put a priority rush on this project.
Thanks!!
Bebe
H3 BCM Bypass/Delete
Here are some of the quotes from that thread that would apply to my inquiry:
Man the BCM is extremely integrated into your truck via hardwired copper and the CAN bus. It's either the gateway between other modules or listens and adds its 2 cents to almost every function. Losing it will likely mean losing ABS, traction control, stability control, as well as the little features like being able to close your sunroof after you key off but haven't opened the door. To take it out is to turn the truck into basically a mid 80's totally analog vehicle with a modern OBD2 powertrain which might not start due to the theft deterrent call and response interrupted by removing the BMS.
I have done a significant amount of work designing custom hybrid and EV powertrains in vehicles with modern electronics and I wouldn't even dream of trying to get by without the BMS even with all of my equipment and even if GM supplied with a .dbc file (so I don't have to reverse engineer the CAN bus).
Relocating it isn't so bad. The green/yelow CAN wires need to be a twisted pair to reject noise but that's literally no harder than twisting two wires. Usually you just put on end in a drill and twist away.
Frank
If there is no way to bypass it, my next step is to looking into extending cables, and moving the BCM up to the roof. It's not as simple as it seems. This needs to be done by some electrical pro because the BCM is very sensitive. Cables have to be compensated for extended length and shielded for any interference. Unfortunately I don't know anyone like that in my area.
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Hi Frank,
Thanks for the useful input. Looking at pics of the BCM, it seems like there are more than just the two CAN bus wires. Is that so in all the models, or only in the older. pre-CAN bus BCMs? I'm thinking that all the cables that come from all the sensors and lights, each has it's own pin. I have no experience with this, so please correct me. TIA
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The BCM controls to much to consider removing it.
The thread seems to have morphed a little and I'm guessing the main reason is concern of the BCM getting wet. Waterproofing of electronics has made major advances in the past year. The industry is aimed mainly at mobile phones now, but there is no reason you couldn't have a BCM or PCM done. http://www.hzoinside.com/ There is another company with a very similar process that is aiming more for the post consumer market, but I cant remember their name.
Waterproofing these boxes makes a lot of sense. You can only move them so high and if it's not enough...
I've read some threads on PBB too and learned a little more: BCM's are heat sensitive, condensation sensitive, blah, blah blah. I saw some tupperware tricks, pelican case options, one of my friends used a tupperware container and put a vent tube on the top of it.
Still I think moving it is the best option. From the photo that Recon posted got me thinking (yeah i know....dangerous).
Would a company like Painless Wiring be able to make an adapter kit or a plug in extension to move the Harness up to the glove box or even up the A pillar to the headliner?
I have a spare BCM (well - it's actually a fried one) that I could fit a container around. Then venting it out the A pillar or even to the glove box for simplified access and protection. As long as it is vented it could help with cooling and prevent any condensation. Sealing the the plugs with Dialectic grease and siliconing the holes for the harnesses.
Might be just as tedious as relocating it, but having half doors and water crossings in my future is making me put a priority rush on this project.
Thanks!!
Bebe