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H3/H3T Fog Light Bulb Upgrade

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Has anyone upgraded the bulb in the H3/H3T fog lights? I'm interested in improving the fog light for off road use. Any suggestions for bulbs to improve the light output and still be street legal would be appreciated.
 

06 H3

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I upgraded to the slyvania silverstars for the headlight and saw a difference. Im sure the slyvania silverstar fog light upgrade would improve things too. Using the stock housing and lenses with a different bulb will improve output but dont expect the improvements of a RI light where you sit there in amazement.

You could go the HID route too. Those are a good amount brighter but dealing with ballasts can be a PITA. I know thats very opinionated though, some people I know never had a ballast issue and somehow my brothers HIDs got bad ballast after bad ballast so I stay clear of them.
 

Hans3T

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I've done the Silverstars as well. The output over the OEM bulbs is instantly noticable. Whereas I used to run with my fogs on all the time, I've found that once I put in the Silverstars I don't need to use my fogs nearly as much.

That said, buying an HID kit would likely be better still. My old man's Mini has HIDs that blow my headlights outta the water.

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alrock

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I have the Silverstars in the fogs and it is a decent upgrade but isnt a substitute for OffRoad lights

FYI I bought the Ultras for the headlights when they came out and I didn't see an upgrade over regular Silverstars. Easy to compare as I only bought one Ultra and the other is an older Silverstars.

But, back on point. Better fog bulbs are good, cheap and not serious work to change
 

4u33er

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HIDEXTRA has a 30% sale right now so I ordered a set for the Fogs. I've used these kits for 3 of my other cars and have all lasted 3+ year now.

I'll be doing a Morimoto Mini Projector retrofit on the headlights and just an HID upgrade for the fogs.
 

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Ultimately, I'll probably add RI LED lights for off road use. For the immediate future, I'm looking to improve the existing lights as much as I can, so I want to keep the fog lights street legal. Since atmospheric scattering is a function of wavelength (shorter - blue is scattered more and long - red is scattered less) amber or yellow fog lights should provide slightly better visibility in inclement weather. They also claim that amber light scatters less in dusty conditions. This is because most, although not all dust has a yellowish color, so it absorbers the yellow light rather than reflecting it. The reflected light (sometimes referred to as glare) increases the background or "noise" thereby reducing the effective signal to noise ratio. Therefore, I am looking for yellow or amber fog lights that fit the H3/H3T, but I haven't found any yet.
 

Hunner

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Wow that saves me looking for that. I figured it was not still here or was never here?
I still have those installed and they work for me. So far they have not burned out and I run them all the time.
Note that I did buy the new pigtails that resist heat better.
I think there was also a higher wattage but I did not want to push it.

Now if I can get my new light pods made out of about 10 gauge steel I will have a these added combo side lights in addition to the stock ones.
I may have to go with some thinner stuff as I found a sheet metal shop with a CNC setup that I will go to Monday.
While not as bright as the OEM they do help on dark roads out to the side and rock crawling.
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Thanks. I was about to PM you to ask how you liked them.

I had looked at the Nokya, but I was looking for a true yellow without a coating like PIAA makes, but they don't fit the H3/H3T. I guess Nokya is the best that will fit.

I don't know about you're state, but in most states you are required to extinguished fog lights when meeting or overtaking another vehicle.

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Hunner

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Yea there is still a law on the books that you have to shut down your motor vehicle when a horse and buggy or rider is approaching and cover the vehicle with a tarp and walk them by.
I think here the situation is that if you have them adjusted down, like fogs are supposed to be and that don't blind a driver or trooper it's not a problem.
What they do like to enforce is "accessory" lighting, that being other than what came on the vehicle and you are supposed to cover those when on the hwy. I guess for the same reason so as not to blind an oncoming driver and have them hit you even if they have their OEM brights on blinding you. It's so tempting though............
We no longer have safety inspections because it became a scam to always charge for adjusting head lights and other political reasons, so now you never know what is coming at you or if it has brakes.
 

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I'm kind of hard over on being on the right side of legal. The reason that the DOT does not regulate the output of fog lights is because they are supposed to be extinguished when meeting or overtaking another vehicle, so they should not impair another drivers vision. Therefore, I decided there was no reason not to upgrade to HID fog lights. I decided to get 3000K HID's because they are not illegal in fog lights, the yellow color is supposed to be better for inclement weather / dust and they have about 3 times the light output of halogen fog lights. I’ll see how they perform off road and then decide what additional LED lights I need.

Even though the HID's operate at the same average power as the stock halogen lights, the start-up current (the current draw for the first 10 to 20 seconds) is significantly higher than halogen. Therefore, I opted for the relay wiring kit that connects the HID lights directly to the battery via a fuse and only used the stock wiring to activate the relay.
 

alrock

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AZ law does not appear to prohibit the use of fog/driving lights as long as the beams are properly directed to not blind oncoming drivers.
 

is350

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i have the 42watt luminics krypton jdm yellow fogs H10 (i think they might be discontinued), i think they are a good improvement over stock fogs
i don't have any pics of the stock lights fogs in there but thought this might help
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fogs only
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fogs and low beams
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