H3 Need Your Guy's Opinion On Some Coming Mods "Für Meine Panzer"

[Panzer07]

Alrighty, here is the deal/dilemma I'm coming across. In this coming month I'm having a nice chunk of spare money to my disposal, and I'm wanting to invested in mods for my H3 that I have in my mods list. Anyways I've divided them in 3 sets, that pretty much add up to the equal ammount I'll be having to spare.


Mod-Set 1: OEM UCP, Rock Sliders (OEM OR SCHWARTZY), And Shocks (Not Yet Decided Whether all 4 corner to be Belstin 5100 or 5160 front and 5100 rear, Or Foxes).

Mod-Set 2; 5 35" Good Year MTRZ With Kevlar Tires, and computer tune-up for the bigger tires.

Mod-Set 3; 4' Rancho Lift Kit (With Other Than Rancho Shocks, as well I Want To Use The Spacers So I Can Keep My OEM Tires).


Anywyas I hope you guys give me some feed back. as well what you think is better or what your personal experieces are with what you had or currently have. Keep in mind I'm getting all of this mods at one point but as of righ now I can only afford one.
I'll really appreciate your feed back, and help. thank you for your time.

 

[Schwarttzy]

Woot! Someone talking about my parts!

I'm obviously bias about something.

If your going to wheel it hears what I would do:

Tires are awesome, won't be disappointed. Not sure I would rock the OEM UCP unless you upgrade them. I offer UCP Skid Plates that are stronger and would cost about the same ($175 + shipping if you want my pre production ones with a fresh powder coat). Fox shocks are nice but they have less travel than bilstein shocks. You don't need spacers, if you don't mind rubbing on the sway-bar a bit... I sure don't.

I'm not a fan of the rancho lift, should try leveling and extended shackles before going this route. I would much spend the money on wheeling than on this par

 

[Schwarttzy]

O I forgot, I run the factory shocks and have no urge to replace them.

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

swarttz skids - don't bother with the factory..... I really did a lot of looking between the two; and for the 200 or so dollars more (best deal on ebay); the aftermarket skids are light-years better (whether or not they're better than what I built - well, that's a matter of opinion )

Rancho lift front, spring over axle mod for the back (aka Bebe's mod) rather than lift springs - I don't like lift springs because they don't ride as well.... plus, doing the spring over swap reduces a hangup point underneath.

and I like my toyo MTs - they wear like iron and once you've aired them down a few times, the sidewalls really flex well..... with that said, I don't do desert often - so YMMV.


you also have the 5 cylinder? you'll want to find some kind of power adder - I'd suggest turbos (there is a kit out there)... the 5 cyl has great torque, but you'll get blown off the highway by any semi going up the grapevine with 35s and a NA 5. A turbo will really help you because it'll increase you hp without the blower/supercharger penalties

 

[Panzer07]

yeah I agree, and I'm personally a little more inclinitated for getting set number one, i believe protection has priority over other mods, however tires are tempting as well, but I'm runing 33' and they hold up pretty good as well they have quite some miles left on them.
Now I really liked your rock sliders they look tougher than oem ones and the extended lip oh the side seem to provide some extra protection(now is the price listed on your website, the price for both or each slider. you can PM me the price if you prefer) . as well the UCP Skid which i just checked it out. and really seems promessing only reason i didn't mentioned is because i wasnt awared you made them as well. and everyone seems to favor the OEM UCP, as well it has been tested time over time, and they seem to hold on pretty good. as well i was planing on upgrade them with the extra reinforment that i think another guy here makes.
now i also like your high clerance leaf spring mounts, however I sort of found out about them a little late and i currently have the Hunner skids, which i havent yet got to test. However I could easily take them off and sell them or something. And Give A Shot To Yours, specially if i get the rancho lift, which i will get at one point because i want my truck i little higher.
Now i know some guys here have done the over leaf spring ove the axel rather than under (06 H3. Chris). now my question is; Would it be possible to invert your high clerance leaf spring mounts (use the left side one up side down on the roght side and the right side on the left side)?. So it accomodates everything together givng you some extra ground clerance and a little lift. which conbine with the rancho shackle kit or what not, would allows you to keep the OEM Leaf Spring Since I Keep Reading That The Rancho Leaf Springs Are Garbage.
i know i got side tracked but sort of trying to explain what is it that im trying to get to. As well I ain't trying to waste money in the process or at least not much. lol

and so you'll recomend bilsteins over fox, as well will they be compatible with the rancho lift, because i don't wanna get some shocks right now and then have to purchase another for whe i get that rancho lift kit going on. as for the spacers i will only get them for when i get the rancho kit as well so i can keep my OEM Rims since i read that they arent compatible, and i don't want to have to buy new shoes.

Woot! Someone talking about my parts!

I'm obviously bias about something.

If your going to wheel it hears what I would do:

Tires are awesome, won't be disappointed. Not sure I would rock the OEM UCP unless you upgrade them. I offer UCP Skid Plates that are stronger and would cost about the same ($175 + shipping if you want my pre production ones with a fresh powder coat). Fox shocks are nice but they have less travel than bilstein shocks. You don't need spacers, if you don't mind rubbing on the sway-bar a bit... I sure don't.

I'm not a fan of the rancho lift, should try leveling and extended shackles before going this route. I would much spend the money on wheeling than on this par

 

[Panzer07]

I'm really liking the schwarttzy skids, and toyo MTs were in my tire option for a while but as of right now i'm gonna take a leap of faith and give a shot to those wrangler's With Kevlar.
Now i don't all about that turbo stuff, or at least not right now, i am aware there is a super-charger for the H3 but as of right now it is out of my reach financially, perhaps once i get done with college and get my PhD I'll have enough for not one but two lol until then I'll try to stay in the first lane untill i get up to speed, good thing here in cali most semi truck don't go over 55 so i'm good...but never the less thanks

swarttz skids - don't bother with the factory..... I really did a lot of looking between the two; and for the 200 or so dollars more (best deal on ebay); the aftermarket skids are light-years better (whether or not they're better than what I built - well, that's a matter of opinion )

Rancho lift front, spring over axle mod for the back (aka Bebe's mod) rather than lift springs - I don't like lift springs because they don't ride as well.... plus, doing the spring over swap reduces a hangup point underneath.

and I like my toyo MTs - they wear like iron and once you've aired them down a few times, the sidewalls really flex well..... with that said, I don't do desert often - so YMMV.


you also have the 5 cylinder? you'll want to find some kind of power adder - I'd suggest turbos (there is a kit out there)... the 5 cyl has great torque, but you'll get blown off the highway by any semi going up the grapevine with 35s and a NA 5. A turbo will really help you because it'll increase you hp without the blower/supercharger penalties

 

[06 H3]

Rancho kit is 1000x better then a t bar crank IMO.

Schwartzys mounts will be useless with a spring over. Use ruffstuff parts, about 300 bucks and your good to go. Keep your stock springs and use them.

 

[2010H3TAlpha]

Woot! Someone talking about my parts!

I'm obviously bias about something.

If your going to wheel it hears what I would do:

Tires are awesome, won't be disappointed. Not sure I would rock the OEM UCP unless you upgrade them. I offer UCP Skid Plates that are stronger and would cost about the same ($175 + shipping if you want my pre production ones with a fresh powder coat). Fox shocks are nice but they have less travel than bilstein shocks. You don't need spacers, if you don't mind rubbing on the sway-bar a bit... I sure don't.

I'm not a fan of the rancho lift, should try leveling and extended shackles before going this route. I would much spend the money on wheeling than on this par

Does your pre-production UCP fit a 2010 H3T? If so, how do I get in on that deal?

 

[Zach]

I've got a set of front bilstein shocks for a 3. Will make you a deal on them

 

[Panzer07]

I've got a set of front bilstein shocks for a 3. Will make you a deal on them

what Grade 5100 or 5160, I'm looking for 5160.

 

[Panzer07]

Rancho kit is 1000x better then a t bar crank IMO.

Schwartzys mounts will be useless with a spring over. Use ruffstuff parts, about 300 bucks and your good to go. Keep your stock springs and use them.

I Agree And I bet It Is. That's why I wan to get one. do you know of any one why has them for a good price?, if I'm not mistaking I remember reading a post somewhere about this provider who had the rancho kit for a pretty nice affordable price, I don't if it was you or someone else making this reference. But anyways so the schwarttzy mounts won't work, that kind of sucks in the picture it seems like it could work if you swap them (right on left) and flip them around (upside down). but anyways I going to get on and check those ruffstuffs parts. btw as well what are the diameters and make brand of the spacers you use in order to be able to keep your OEM Rims?.

 

[Zach]

5100. Guess that rules it out

 

[poncho1965]

See what your limitations are, then do the mods accordingly. I say UCP and sliders. My first mod was rock sliders, then UCP when I came down on my TC once. I still run 33's, sure I bang my UCP more often though. Kept hanging up on my shock mounts so I got low profile ones. I want 35's, but 90% of use is still on road and I have an I5, while the look is awesome I still don't know about running 35's with my weak engine. I did the t bar crank but still run stock shocks. So again, find out what you can't do, then mod from there. It is a fun process figuring out what you can't do! Hope you might join us for sleeping princess in AZ. That is a fun trail!


Mike

 

[mudbug]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the ucp won't work with the rancho lift without some sort of modification.

 

[06 H3]

I use 1.75in spacers and I have a post to all the parts needed. Ill link it when I get home

 

[06 H3]

The t case ucp will the front won't. You can weld the front ucp to the front aft bars. I can do that for you if need be.

 

[mudbug]

please do Chris. Do u have pics in squeaky build thread. I still have my lift I need to install when I get back to my h3.

 

[Panzer07]

See what your limitations are, then do the mods accordingly. I say UCP and sliders. My first mod was rock sliders, then UCP when I came down on my TC once. I still run 33's, sure I bang my UCP more often though. Kept hanging up on my shock mounts so I got low profile ones. I want 35's, but 90% of use is still on road and I have an I5, while the look is awesome I still don't know about running 35's with my weak engine. I did the t bar crank but still run stock shocks. So again, find out what you can't do, then mod from there. It is a fun process figuring out what you can't do! Hope you might join us for sleeping princess in AZ. That is a fun trail!


Mike

Good Points, and I am tilting more right now on the road of protection since what good is having all this other mods when your vital components are pretty expose and vulnerable at the trails. and for sure, i'll tag alone in every run as long as it is not in a day that I have to drill. Is there a thread going on about this run already ?

 

[Panzer07]

I use 1.75in spacers and I have a post to all the parts needed. Ill link it when I get home

Alright, And Thanks Man I'll Appreciate that.

 

[mudbug]

I use 1.75in spacers and I have a post to all the parts needed. Ill link it when I get home

Sorry about the previous post chris. I thought u used spacers on the ucp. I've been out off it to long.

 

[06 H3]

No worries! I made my own custom ucp but you can weld it on also.

 

[poncho1965]

Good Points, and I am tilting more right now on the road of protection since what good is having all this other mods when your vital components are pretty expose and vulnerable at the trails. and for sure, i'll tag alone in every run as long as it is not in a day that I have to drill. Is there a thread going on about this run already ?

We ran the AZ trail early November last year, it really showed me what my rig can do and had me out of my comfort zone many times. It was great fun with an awesome group!


Mike

 

[poncho1965]

No thread so far for sleeping princess, but it's a ways out.


Mike

 

[Zach]

We ran the AZ trail early November last year, it really showed me what my rig can do and had me out of my comfort zone many times. It was great fun with an awesome group!


Mike

Ohhhhh Sleeping Princess! Think I had my all time pucker factor there sliding off the trail. Although I have had many others. I'm ready for it

 

[06 H3]

Im ready to tackle that trail...Not gonna miss it this year.