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Normal or front end service needed?

alrock

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I won't have a chance until next weekend to put the front end on jacks, but check out these pics of my pigeon-toed wheels. Not too bad compared to some of other instances, like the H2 Fabtech flex, but could be worrisome. What do you think?
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j3jackson

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I have seen DIYers put a straight edge across each tire and measure front compared to the back. I think most vehicles are toed in some.
 

06 H3

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I have seen some like that before...some worse and some not as bad. Possibly an alignment will help that if they adjust the toe in or if the rack and tie rods are worn and they are allowing the flex. I would start with an alignment if your concerned. Luckily you had no issues going up the gate or moab rim
 

Reloader

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Steep incline, suspension drooped down = toed in wheels on an IFS truck. I say normal given the circumstances of that picture.

Same opinion here. Up hill under power, weight on the rear, front suspension unloaded, looking toe in would be normal. If rack was behind front axle it would look toe out. Did it handle and steer ok on the drive home from Moab? Mine was straight. I thought for sure the steering wheel would at least be off center.
 

alrock

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My suspension has been tracking true with no rattles either like might appear with a bad or loose rack. No pulling under power, braking or driving straight. Nothing changed from before Moab and truck has felt very solid. I'm going to take it to Firestone tomorrow for lifetime alignment check.

Big and Reloader, thanks for the great explanation. I feel much better now.
 

Big2dabank

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The tie-rod angles give it away in the pictures. As the suspension droops down the tie-rod swings along and arc path and not a straight up and down path so it forces the wheels to toe in slightly. The more droop on the IFS the more toe in you will see. I don't think its an issue. Cool pics by the way.
 

alrock

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So, basically since Hummer Investments Inc was in the back seat he was weighing down the rear of the truck causing this to happen? Makes sense to me. :)

I'll probably cancel the alignment since there are no other steering or handling issues.
 

H3TBone

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I think it's normal, but on the high side of normal. I would check your tie-rods ends, rack, etc, to be on the safe side. Rack and pinion go boom!
 
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