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Our Military Has Been Insulted

deserth3

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Read this on the local news...


SALT LAKE CITY — Senate Majority Leader Scott Jenkins went off for the second day in a row over a proposed property tax exemption for members of the military called to active duty, saying they don't need any more breaks.

The Plain City Republican blasted the legislation, calling bill sponsor Sen. Luz Robles, D-Salt Lake, a "bleeding heart" in the process.

Soldiers, he said, know what they're getting into when they enlist and already receive "lots and lots and lots of advantages."
Your bleeding heart is saying, 'OK, Sen. Jenkins, we want you now to pay for their taxes.' Well, I'm saying enough.
–Sen. Scott Jenkins​


"We give them all kinds of breaks. We pay for their clothing. We allow them to shop at the PX," said Jenkins, who served 7 years in the National Guard. "And now you're forcing me, your bleeding heart is saying, 'OK, Sen. Jenkins, we want you now to pay for their taxes.' Well, I'm saying enough."

The Senate on Wednesday voted 24-4 on both a bill, SB116, and a resolution to allow the tax waiver. The resolution, SJR8, calls for an amendment to the state constitution for the exemption, which voters would have to approve in November.

Property owners statewide would pay about $1 more in taxes should the amendment pass, according to legislative fiscal analysts.

"Truly, this is a small way of saying thank you as a state," Robles said in Senate floor debate Tuesday. "I don't think it's a huge burden."

On Wednesday, retired Army Gen. Peter S. Cooke called on Gov. Gary Herbert as commander-in-chief of the Utah National Guard to denounce Jenkins' "shocking diatribe."
Sen. Jenkins talked about our soldiers like they're gaming the system. It was an attack on our American heroes.
–Retired Army Gen. Peter S. Cook​


"Hill Air Force Base is adjacent to Jenkins’ district. These men and women are his constituents," said Cooke, a Democratic candidate for governor.

"Sen. Jenkins talked about our soldiers like they’re gaming the system. It was an attack on our American heroes, who protect our freedoms, day in and day out, on battlefields around the world."

But Jenkins said Thursday he didn't intend to offend military personnel, rather he's worried the money for the tax break would cause ripple effects — creating bureaucracy and taking money from other places.
"I'm very supportive of (soldiers). They mean a lot to me," Jenkins said. "But this is just one of those cases where I thought I was being put in the center of it, which is why I reacted like I did."But military families — even though they volunteer, as Jenkins pointed out — still suffer hardships. Gen. Jefferson Burton, of the Utah National Guard, says about 530 Guard members are deployed right now; 560 will deploy this year.



"We have soldiers who have been deployed five to six times," Burton said. "When you add that up, you have soldiers who have been deployed five out of the last 10 years. ... and so the burden has been heavy."
If the approximately 1,600 active military members in the state received the exemption, it would result in a $2.1 million property tax reduction, legislative fiscal analysts say. Due to truth in taxation, about 901,000 property owners who are not active military members would see a corresponding tax increase after five years.

To qualify for the exemption, soldiers would have to actively serve in the U.S. armed forces or reserves outside the state for 200 days in a calendar year, according to the bill. The state would then waive property tax on their primary residence the following year.

Because the resolution proposes a constitutional amendment, it needed a two-thirds majority or at least 20 votes in the Senate before moving to the House, where it also needs a two-thirds majority vote.

Sens. David Hinkins, R-Orangville; Wayne Niederhauser, R-Sandy, and Howard Stephenson, R-Draper, joined Jenkins in voting against the measures.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=192...-exemption-for-utah-soldiers&s_cid=featured-1

This is the email I sent to Senator Jenkins


Senator Jenkins

How dare you sit on your high horse over paid butt and say our military doesn't need any more breaks while on active duty. Your comments truly show how much you don't appreciate the freedoms you enjoy every day.
These freedoms have been paid for by the blood, sweat and tears of our military and their families.
You sir need to resign and apologize to our military. You don’t deserve the position into which you have had the honor of being elected.
Signed
 
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Trekker

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I'll bet he doesn't get reelected. If it were up to me, active duty military wouldn't pay a dime of state or federal taxes.
 

abearden

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He's an idiot for the way he presented it and insulting our military. Arguing against it on the basis of everyone paying in equally is one thing (personally, I'm a fan of flat tax above a poverty threshold; no exceptions, no write-offs, no exemptions) or that they use state infrastructure just as much as everyone else, but it's a whole different matter to basically say that our military has too many benefits. You might as well say something stupid like "they don't do enough for our country." I think it's time someone lose his seat, and preferably all his benefits given the senator already gets too many benefits: he is ex-military AND a senator.
 

Hunner

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Give the active military a raise and those tax incentives and tell that SOB to get a real job or only get paid when the state congress is in session.
 
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3Hummers

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Everyone should be a stakeholder in the financial health of this country but active duty soldiers should get every break possible. Hard to believe this idiot is a Republican. I hope he loses in the primary.
 

twinmill28

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Thank you guys and gals of this forum for all of your support of our military and their families.

I wouldn't let one elected jackass taint the way the nation as whole feels about it's military.
I was just thinking yesterday about the outstanding support my family and I have received during my 22 years active duty.
A vast majority of the civilian population does incredible things every day to support the troops, in all kinds of ways that alot of people will never know, and I only wish there was a way to truly thank them and let them know how much their efforts mean to the service members and their families.
When I was first approached by people thanking me for my service (many times when off base and in uniform), I was speechless and kind of embarrassed. I didn't know how to acknowledge the appreciation because I looked at what I did as not only a privelidge and honor to be doing (only a very small percentage of our nation can or will serve), but it was also something that I WANTED to be doing, and couldn't see living my life any other way. I finally came to terms that many people are truly thankful for the miltary and that I could smile, shake their hand and THANK THEM for their support. It is, after all, that very support that helps carry us thru the hardest of times when we have to set our families and our lives aside and focus on completing the mission overseas even when our kids are sick, one of our family members dies and our spouses are left to deal with the car breaking down or any number of catastrophies at the house.

So I say thank you to every one of our service members, and thank you to everyone who supports them with undying gratitude.

BTW--I have recognized the irony of the service provided to my country enables everyone to their right to voice their opinion, no matter how wrong I may feel it is.
 
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deserth3

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This is the reply I recieved from Senator Scott Jenkins today...

Thank you for your Email regarding my stance on SJR8. I wish I had spoken more clearly, and with less fire Tuesday. That was a mistake. I have nothing but admiration and the greatest respect for our servicemen and women.I served for seven years in the 145[SUP]th[/SUP] Artillery. My voting record is consistent in my support for our soldiers. In the last six years, I have never voted against any of the many bills that have honored and supported our servicemen.However, SJR 8 is a flawed bill. It erodes our tax base and increases overall taxes. If we want long-term revenue stability we need policies that lower the tax rates and broaden the tax base. (Taxing many people or things at a very low rate provides a more stale income stream than taxing a few things or people at a very large rate.) The exemption this bill creates will decrease the number of people paying taxes and increase the tax rate for everyone else. Yes, it is a relatively small amount, however everything adds up and this is just one of many bills just asking for a small amount. On principle, I think the legislature took a path that does more damage than good. Should we support and honor our servicemen and women? Absolutely. Is this the right bill to do this? No. There are better bills that give our support to these wonderful men and women that continue to serve their country. That said, I should have been more articulate, and less fired up – I know that gave people the wrong impression about who I am and where I stand regarding our servicemen and women. Sincerely,Scott Jenkins
 
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