• Welcome to H4O! For a reduced ad experience, please login or register with the forum.

P2135

zebra

Well-Known Member
Messages
199
Location
cold & windy
since it seems people here lose their minds over adding inquiry to a relevant topic i took the time to search for but saw it hadn't had any responses in a while, here's my new thread...

our 09 3.7L started randomly throwing P2135 & flagging REDUCED POWER mode, STAB/TRAC SYS FAIL messages, etc. while normally a daily driver, it sat for a few days while my wife was out of town - which coincided with a pretty cold snap (consistently in the teens). i started it up the other day to warm up, and when i came back 5min later, it was loping hard at 1500rpm like it had a dead cylinder or something. i plugged up the scan tool & saw the TPS code (A/B voltage mismatch). i cleared it out just to see what happened, and the idle instantly settled to normal & smoothed out like nothing was ever amiss.

fast forward 15min as i'm driving to work - same issue. pulled into a parking lot, cleared, and drove just fine for another day & a half.
after messing with TB connectors, battery terminals, modulating the gas pedal, etc. in the parking lot, i couldn't manually duplicate the problem. sometimes acts up while driving; sometimes acts up sitting still... can't nail down a pattern to it.

is this the dreaded "try replacing all you want, but you're gonna end up buying a throttle body" problem? and if so, has it actually been confirmed that the 4.2L throttle body is the same size as the 3.7L? they have two different part numbers, but it might simply be because the plug is in a slightly different spot... that said, it's a popular mod in the 2.9L Colorado world. if i have to buy another one anyway (and it's actually bigger), seems like now'd be the time to do it... granted i'd have to also do something about that retarded 2.5" neck-down at the airbox where the MAF plugs into the tube for it to amount to a hill of beans.

thoughts or other suggestions? luckily, i can manage with it for a couple days before i go out of town on a work trip - meaning she can drive my truck in the mean time, but i'd like to have her rocking & rolling shortly after i get back.
 

amrg

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,317
Location
Qatar
I had the same issue, thought i solved it but it came back at the most ridiculous time, 40 miles offroad in the middle of climbing sand dunes. I was traverssing across dunes at 5 mph, it was super slow and with super soft sand you need speed!
Anyway, the problem has been ongoing for 3 years and everytime I did something the issue would go for a while then come back. I started with spraying electrical connector spray, then replaced the tps, then replaced the pedal assembly, then throttle body (issue didnt come for 8 months).
My wires look fine and wiggling the connector/wires doesnt bring the issue back again. So yeah....


Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
 

zebra

Well-Known Member
Messages
199
Location
cold & windy
thanks, guys. i stopped by the stealership today just to check on that "GM may pay for it" bit. turned out to be a special warranty extension to specifically cover the throttle body out to 10yrs/120k mi... and at 117k mi on her now, it still lapsed two years ago. :(


From the service manual it looks like either a wiring issue or a bad ecm or throttle body.

The throttle body appears to be common with a number of applications, I would find a cheap used one first to see if it makes a difference. Interchange below

https://www.gmpartsdirect.com/oem-parts/gm-throttle-body-12568580
sure on that part #? a few places i pull up 2009 H3 (3.7L) say part# 12631016 (replaced by 12694877), which both reference the AC Delco 217-3107
they look very similar except that the one you linked has a metal electronics cover (vs the latter's plastic), but yours seems to only cross-reference up to 2007 model 3.7s...

did anything change from 07 to 09 that'd make a difference? if they're both electrically & mechanically compatible, the 1st one can be bought new for $69 vs $140, and nobody here has one in stock, so i'd have to order regardless.
 

jimmy p

Well-Known Member
Messages
186
Location
detroit
Sorry about that, I would have bet money you had "07" typed in your original post. Looks like the 09 design might have less common interchange options so finding a cheap used one might be more difficult. Have you looked up the procedure on how to diagnose the wiring first? I think it is in the swartzzy (sp?) site in the service manual
 
Top