06 H3
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Paladine would be a machine in this type of situation. He's got everything
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Sandy
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I too know what you mean about it does not apply to everyone. That would be a generalization to lump everyone together, but for us down south here in rural areas that do not depend on public transportation, do not solely depend on utilities to always function, and have to plan ahead just for a long holiday weekend as it is customary to keep your fuel full and food supplies ahead for several days because it is some distance to gather all that, it is difficult to understand total dependence on government to take care of that and fix everything for you.
Having the freedom and independance to jump in your vehicle and drive to anywhere most of the time without problems is looking better all the time.
I saw some of those images of houses that looked less than 10 feet apart which 80 burned up when one caught fire. That is a bit close for us.
Different life style, definitely.
Here you have to have a review and statement that your home is not in a flood plain to get an FHA loan.
Having the freedom and independance to jump in your vehicle and drive to anywhere most of the time without problems is looking better all the time.
I saw some of those images of houses that looked less than 10 feet apart which 80 burned up when one caught fire. That is a bit close for us.
Different life style, definitely.
Here you have to have a review and statement that your home is not in a flood plain to get an FHA loan.
Ugh, real sorry to hear Zach. Keeping toes and fingers crossed that they are ok.
Hope they are ok. One thing could be their cell phone battery failed and no place to charge. I would guess by now they have portable towers in place.
Another possibility I know of is cell usage is sometimes restricted to emergency personnel. That happened to me a couple of times on the Gulf. Your phone even displays that when you try to call out.
Another possibility I know of is cell usage is sometimes restricted to emergency personnel. That happened to me a couple of times on the Gulf. Your phone even displays that when you try to call out.
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58Bisc
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Woke up to power and heat! What a nice feeling. Now if I could only find my 8x10 shed that blew away Wizard of OZ style...
Paladine71
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True story.
This is why I stress being prepared. I think that not being ready, is not caring for my family and friends. Weeks without power, would be an inconvenience for me, not a crisis.
MtnRsqDawg
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Amen brother!
All this disaster refreshed the thinking around here. Halloween night prompted an impromptu' meeting with some neighbors as we stood outside and watched the kids trick or treat.
Helping your neighbors become more informed and prepared takes some of the burden off of supporting them when the need arises.
My electrician neighbor and I were asked by three of them to help them get prepared. Of course we were glad to offer our help.
Several years ago I drove to Mississippi and picked up four generators during a snow storm and lengthy power outage for neighbors that could not get out to get them and we hooked those up and always offer to come over in a crisis and help manage them.
Now we are expanding. We have someone that is a Ham Operator and he also offered any help he could provide and was interested in my Honda powered inverters because of their pure sine wave and use for his equipment.
All of that will make it safer for all of us.
What a country!!
Helping your neighbors become more informed and prepared takes some of the burden off of supporting them when the need arises.
My electrician neighbor and I were asked by three of them to help them get prepared. Of course we were glad to offer our help.
Several years ago I drove to Mississippi and picked up four generators during a snow storm and lengthy power outage for neighbors that could not get out to get them and we hooked those up and always offer to come over in a crisis and help manage them.
Now we are expanding. We have someone that is a Ham Operator and he also offered any help he could provide and was interested in my Honda powered inverters because of their pure sine wave and use for his equipment.
All of that will make it safer for all of us.
What a country!!
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In Texas I think I only have one neighbor within a mile of the house. I do have multiple generators, stocks of diesel and gas, multiple vehicles including Hummers and a large 4WD John Deere. I do need to keep on the wife about keeping adequate food stocks around. My survival/disaster stocks are all in great shape. I think most of my neighbors are in similar shape but being in the country people are used to being on their own. My Cali stocks are sufficient for me but I couldn't support the neighbors. Hopefully the takeaway from events like Sandy are that more people get better prepared. I have read some nasty reviews of the Red Cross effort but what most people don't realize is that Red Cross is a volunteer organization that depends on private donations to function. As bad as the devastation is after some of these disasters it takes them awhile to gear up and get into these areas to provide assistance. In events like Sandy where the need is so widespread it can overtax both the private and public relief capabilities. That is why people need to be able to take care of themselves for days, maybe even weeks in some cases, after a major disaster. Another thing people don't seem to understand is that many of the local volunteers for relief agencies are in the same situation as they are. Roads are blocked, power is down, local stores of relief supplies have been destroyed or the means to move them limited. Many times relief has to come from geographically distant areas. Self reliance...we used to be really good at it. We need to reaquire that skill set as a nation.
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shawndondo
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My Family is lives in northern jersey in Bayonne. I have to agree with you alpha, the issue was when hurricane Irene hit the same area the news made it seem to be more than it was. So when sandy came being typical New Yorkers and Jerseians they didn’t heed the warnings. I watched the news this morning and people were blaming the government for not properly warning them...at what point do you, the free citizen take responsibilities for your actions or lack thereof. Not trying to down play anything, it is a complete tragedy and my heart goes out to all the true victims but some self-reliance goes along way.
Really good point. I think their name and history might be working against them sometimes. They are a super well known "brand" and I think that is one reason many people somehow expect the Red Cross to magically appear instantly when bad things happen.
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I think the Red Cross has done a great job in many cases. Sometimes when the disaster is as widespread as is the case with Sandy it can take them awhile to get to some of the areas, especially when all of the local Red Cross chapters are devastated by the storm. Locally the Red Cross routinely practices load outs on the trucks and trailers to be ready for a disaster or impending event. In a case where there is a big storm surge or huge wind and water damage those local supplies can be destroyed as can the vehicles to deliver the supplies. You can't just show up at a Red Cross facility and start helping. You have to pass a background check, take classes, etc. More people need to be involved. The training can be helpful even if you never deploy with the Red Cross.
j3jackson
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Hope it all works out for you up there.
twinmill28
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It took us (the people of Northwest Florida) over ten years of getting knocked around by hurricanes to finally get an idea of what was needed to be prepared for these things. My first hurricane was Opal in 1995 and I was young, really really broke, and from Arizona----I had a lot to learn, along with many of my buddies. I didn't stock up on food or gas, partially because of my economics (I didn't even have credit available) and half-way because I'd never been exposed to this kind of an event. We got hammered in Opal, I spent the next month driving a HMMWV to work on the beach every morning to salvage one of our Air Force buildings. The original main road to the site had been connected from the Bay to the Gulf of Mexico and they all became one during the storm---it was located on a barrier island. I learned from that storm that the Weather Channel will broadcast any piece of metal flapping around, and most of the stuff broadcast on the WC at that time was poorly constructed additions to mobile homes---drama gets ratings.
The guys I work with grew and learned with me over the years after Opal, along with the Air Force base I've been working on. No longer do the troops shelter in buildings on base unless they are considered mission essential----everybody else evacuates, mandatory order from the commander. We also learned to gas up everything we own, including spare gas cans and to stock up on non-perishable food and replenish the supply every year to keep it from getting old. You prepare your house the best you can, pack out the most important stuff you can---non-replaceable documents and pictures are at the top of the list. Then you lock it up and drive away, not knowing what you'll come back to. We've learned that we're going to be without power for an undetermined length of time, gas will be a be-atch to get, and groceries will be in short supply, if the stores are open.
While I sympathize with the amount of loss the entire east coast is dealing with, I have a very difficult time with the feel sad stories of destroyed properties that are located within blocks of the water near the ports or the ATLANTIC OCEAN AT SEA LEVEL. If you live in a coastal community, guess what? You're eventually going to deal with flooding---it's a given, not an if. Sorry to be so blunt, but that's what we learned--big storms move water massively inland at sea level. Look at New Orleans, what did they do? Built a city next to the Gulf of Mexico---BELOW SEA LEVEL! And when they took a beating, they cleaned it up, and DID IT AGAIN! We really need to learn better from these events.
Ultimately, it's hard for me to say these people should have been more prepared--most of them have never seen or even realized that something like this could happen to them--I sure never did when I was younger. Could they have been more prepared? Sure---but we've learned to be sheep and rely on somebody to come rescue us when we can't take care of ourselves, and when it doesn't happen fast enough, we blame anybody but our sorry selves for our predicament.
Rant over.
I pray for these people to recover and get back on their feet. From my experience it will take years to feel a sense of return to normalcy--and what we dealt with after Opal was more and more hurricanes, so it took a REALLY long time to get this place feeling good again.
The guys I work with grew and learned with me over the years after Opal, along with the Air Force base I've been working on. No longer do the troops shelter in buildings on base unless they are considered mission essential----everybody else evacuates, mandatory order from the commander. We also learned to gas up everything we own, including spare gas cans and to stock up on non-perishable food and replenish the supply every year to keep it from getting old. You prepare your house the best you can, pack out the most important stuff you can---non-replaceable documents and pictures are at the top of the list. Then you lock it up and drive away, not knowing what you'll come back to. We've learned that we're going to be without power for an undetermined length of time, gas will be a be-atch to get, and groceries will be in short supply, if the stores are open.
While I sympathize with the amount of loss the entire east coast is dealing with, I have a very difficult time with the feel sad stories of destroyed properties that are located within blocks of the water near the ports or the ATLANTIC OCEAN AT SEA LEVEL. If you live in a coastal community, guess what? You're eventually going to deal with flooding---it's a given, not an if. Sorry to be so blunt, but that's what we learned--big storms move water massively inland at sea level. Look at New Orleans, what did they do? Built a city next to the Gulf of Mexico---BELOW SEA LEVEL! And when they took a beating, they cleaned it up, and DID IT AGAIN! We really need to learn better from these events.
Ultimately, it's hard for me to say these people should have been more prepared--most of them have never seen or even realized that something like this could happen to them--I sure never did when I was younger. Could they have been more prepared? Sure---but we've learned to be sheep and rely on somebody to come rescue us when we can't take care of ourselves, and when it doesn't happen fast enough, we blame anybody but our sorry selves for our predicament.
Rant over.
I pray for these people to recover and get back on their feet. From my experience it will take years to feel a sense of return to normalcy--and what we dealt with after Opal was more and more hurricanes, so it took a REALLY long time to get this place feeling good again.
I have to agree with you Twinmill. With few exceptions, I believe it is a deliberate decision to live in exposed locations. A few years ago, there was a significant land slide in one of the canyons out here, and some (going by memory) 15 homes were lost. It was of course sad and all sorts of awful, but I later learned that many of these properties were un-insurable because they sat on unstable soil. I can't imagine *anyone* purchasing a home that is un-insurable be unaware of the risk they are exposing themselves to.
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I am on Long Island NY and the devastion is ridiculous. The last real storm before irene was gloria in 85 so the trees are old and overgrown which took down alot of the wires. The flooding was unbelievable with 25+' waves and huge 15' surge. Nobody was preparing for that. It's calles evacuation and most people didnt like dumbasses.
Right now my wife andi are on our smart phones in the dark because we have no a power since sunday but we are prepared and had 40 gallons of fuel and all necessary supplies. We lived in florida for five years and got hit by several hurricanes including wilma which knocked our power out for three weeks.
Today I waited online for gas even though i had 3/4 in the Hummer and there is a 10 gallon max in cans so we waited 3 times for a ttaol of about 3-4 hours
Right now my wife andi are on our smart phones in the dark because we have no a power since sunday but we are prepared and had 40 gallons of fuel and all necessary supplies. We lived in florida for five years and got hit by several hurricanes including wilma which knocked our power out for three weeks.
Today I waited online for gas even though i had 3/4 in the Hummer and there is a 10 gallon max in cans so we waited 3 times for a ttaol of about 3-4 hours
I used to live in Huntington / West Hills. Friends of mine in Oceanside are without power, sounds like they are in the same boat as you (no pun intended). I hope things get better soon for you and yours.
Hummeron37s
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To get our generator supply back upto 40 gallons because the power company is dropping the ball bigtime.all and all we had a downed tree, some siding fly off, some broken fence and our kids new swingset which weighs about 500lbs lifted up and actually flew about 4' back into a tree but overall we are very luck and i am truly grateful for that. I will keep u all updated and let u know how my 2000/4000 inverter works tomorrowGood night phone dying and no way to charge until tomorrow
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Hummeron37s
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My wifes father is in Huntington and they were were hit hard. He had a 30+ year old tree fall on his house. Not pretty around here.
The winds around Selden where we live hit 98mph which just destroyed alot of tuese older n ahe eighborhoods.
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HO37, hope you guys are alright and didn't have too much damage.
06 H3
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Spoke to my aunt today. They still dont have power on Long Island and have been without it since monday, they also dont expect getting it back quickly either.
I had heard another storm might be coming in and may drop some snow, is that true HO37s?
I had heard another storm might be coming in and may drop some snow, is that true HO37s?
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Hot off the presses. This fax was received in every FDNY firehouse a couple hours ago.
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