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So Cal- H4O John Bull trail in Big Bear, Ca

Kurt

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Orange County, CA
I had spares too but it broke at the threads... I couldn't get enough of a bite to push the old bolt out so I'll pull the gear off then tack weld a bolt to what's left and just pull it out that way...
 

JRWid

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So CA
This was an amazing run. Broken half shaft was well worth it! Fortunately I was prepared with a couple of spares. Trail fix was fairly quick and easy. Lesson learned: H2, front locker, spare half shafts, all makes for a good day!
 

LagunaH1

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Here's some of Heather's photos. I don't understand why photobucket sorts them in reverse but oh well.


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cbetts

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Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
Boy, am I tired from this trip! My left leg was jelly by the time we got off the trail. Fortunately, my only issue was a bad relay in my compressor for airing back up.

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The rest of my pics can be viewed here: :link:
 

Kurt

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Orange County, CA
just out of curiosity, do any of the harder obstacles along the trail have by passes?

No bypasses, the hardest bits are within the first 2 miles of the trail, the remaining 4 miles is rockgardens which is moderate compared to gatekeeper and the narrows. Which means when you get multiple groups trying to run the trail at the same time, it's easy for a long line to form up.



The spot with the #6 worth of notes is the switch back and narrows notes I was making on the trail. According to satellite imagery and some older maps, Burnt flat road technically has a spur that bypasses gatekeeper and the narrows and emptys to the spot where David, Chris and I parked next to the Suzuki at the top of the summit. Next time I'm in the area I'll scoot up that road and see if I can connect to John Bull via that route since it would bypass the first 2 miles. On the other hand it may be a ATV/bike route, not suitable for 4x4's.
 

3Hummers

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Central Texas
We did the right thing. We moved over and let other groups pass. Those other groups encountered the same issues we did because they held us up once in front of us. As Kurt said, once you get through the first two miles you can put some distance between you and the next group. In the first two miles it is much harder to move quickly. Having run John Bull before with ZERO strap or winch issues most of our problems were caused by trying to hurry through the trail due to the crowd and getting some not so wonderful spotting from the Suzuki guy. I hate waiting in line as much or more than anyone but that is the way it works sometimes. Sit back and enjoy the day and company when that happens.
 
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North Fontana
It was insane!!! I love trails like these. I typed in on a google search john bull 6/9 and already saw a post on a JK forum bitching about us. The people on that trail were EXTREMELY rude! Our group was awesome...we were polite and let 2 jeep groups past us and at the end of the day we stopped for a good 30 minutes to let a bronco and JK group past as they were bitching on how we were too slow. After waiting for a good 30 minutes no one passed us! We went ahead and finished off the trail. Craig had a bronco guy hanging on his tail revving his engine...UHHH RUDE!?! How about ask nicely. The gatekeeper was ridiculous. There were a good 20+ people hanging out eating lunch and watching us go through. By the time they got there the only people left for the gatekeeper was Zach, Craig, me and Kurt. I made it through under my own power through the gatekeeper with no strap or winch. :) It was really nerve racking to be honest. I had the peanut gallery passing Hummer comments while Craig and Dave are trying to get me through with some other random guys trying to spot me that dont know a proper line for a hummer. Im competitive, we all know that, so I tried my best to get through without a strap/winch yet staying controlled and not breaking something. I made it, after kurt went through I head back down as we parked to let the jeepers through. One rubicon got stuck, as much as I wanted to open my mouth for all the **** they were saying to us I decided to bite my tongue and not stoop to there level. After them old Chevy trucks and K5 blazers went through, a K5 ended up having front axle issues. They turned around. We continue the trail I ended up getting strapped twice at this point. Once we get to "the narrows" on the trail. It was tough as hell, Serges dad got good footage of us going through. I was so pist! I made it 98% through and then needed to get a tug to finish it off. I am making it next time, those ****in duratracs sucked balls seeing they were racing slicks. That was my big issue. All in all it was a great day with great people. I think the other groups reminded me of what a cool group we have, not all but a lot of other groups are filled with jackasses. Im ready to hit that trail again...I will give a review of the lift in the rancho lift section. Thanks guys for a great day, sorry I have no pics...I, as all of us were, just a bit busy.
Hey all, I hope you dont mind I crashed your forum. I try not to just stick to one forum based on my specific rig. I have found in my years of wheeling that you meet great people no matter what they drive. I saw you guys airing up on the way out I was in the orange buggy, Name is Renato
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Anyways I just wanted to say thanks for taking the highroad on the Sh** Talkers. Sometimes people forget that we all started at some point with not so capable rigs..(not saying any of your rigs arent capable at all). As you can see from my rig not too much slows me down these days but again people forget that you dont have to race thru the freaking trail but more or less enjoy the comradery of great people and some beautiful scenery, As for the guy with the bronco I saw him on the gatekeeper and he was kinda rude to me too. My rig will smack his around Haha!!!! Anyways I would love to do another run with yall up to big bear sometime so count me in. Again dont let anyone tell you any different on your rigs... Hummers are awesome!!! It comes down to one thing " Different strokes for different folks" as long as we are all wheeling and having a good time and being respectful of one another thats what matters! Catch you guys out there! and just in case your all wondering what my rig is.....TOYOTAS RULE!!! LOL!!!! :)
 
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Location
North Fontana
We got through it last time with minimal strapping. The thing with this time is there was so much traffic on the trail and the pressure from other groups to get going. And people from other groups telling us lines that just would not work. Ran into that and got into a position where i would have never made it through on my own.
Ive learned that no one knows your rig better than you...unless they have the same one... size, wheelbase, wieght.... you know the best line to pick
 

3Hummers

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Central Texas
Hey Renato, I remember you driving past us. Next time slow down so we can get a better look at your rig. Everyone is welcome here, all types of rigs, people, etc. not much tolerance for brand snobs around here. If you are a responsible wheeler we absolutely welcome you. Our next John Bull run will be during the week and you are welcome to come on any of our runs. Can't wait ti see your truck in action.
 

Scarsman

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Monroe, WA
I wasn't there, but thanks for that! You should like a stand up guy. And you are more than welcome here. You'll find people here with other rigs besides Hummers.

That looks like an awesome buggy! You're right, "capable rig" is a relative term. Next to your buggy 98% of the Jeeps out there would not be "capable." And some of us enjoy taking it slow and working the technical nature of the trail.

Welcome, and feel free to post lots of pics and vids of your buggy!

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