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The "WARTHOG" - The A10 Thunderbolt

Bigunit

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Here in Tucson, we have a pretty-large AF base by the name of Davis-Monthan AFB. It is one of the AF's homes for the A-10 Thunderbolt & for years I've been lucky enough to see these amazing planes flying over and around the Tcson valley during their training runs, so I decided to do a little research and here's what I found:
IS IT A GUN OR IS IT A PLANE?
FROM JIM FROM THE HILL



First there was this gun...
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It was developed by General Electric, the "We bring good things to life" people. It's one of the modern-day Gatling guns. It shoots very big bullets...It shoots them very quickly...

Then, someone said, "Let's put it in an airplane."
Someone else said, "Better still, let's build an airplane around it."
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So they did. And "they" were the Fairchild Republic airplane people and they had done such a good job with an airplane they developed back in WWII .....called the P-47 Thunderbolt! They decided to call it the A10 Thunderbolt.

They made it so it was very good at flying low and slow and shooting things with that fabulous gun.

But since it did fly low and slow, they made it bulletproof, or almost so.
A lot of bad guys have found you can shoot an A10 with anything from a pistol to a 23mm Soviet cannon and it just keeps on flying and shooting.

When they got through, it looked like this.
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It's not sleek and sexy like an F18 or the stealthy Raptors and such, but I think it's such a great airplane because it does what it does better than any other plane in the world...it kills tanks.

Not only tanks, as Sadam Hussein's boys found out to their horror, but armored personnel carriers, radar stations, locomotives, bunkers, fuel depots... just about anything the bad guys thought was bulletproof turned out to be easy pickings for this beast.
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See those engines. One of them alone will fly this plane.
The pilot sits in a very thick titanium alloy "bathtub." That's typical of the design. They were smart enough to make every part the same whether mounted on the left side or right side of the plane, like landing gear, for instance.

Because the engines are mounted so high (away from ground debris) and the landing gear uses such low pressure tires, it can operate from a damaged airport, interstate highway, plowed field, or dirt road.

Everything is redundant.
They have two of almost everything. Sometimes they have three of something. Like flight controls, there's triple redundancy of those, and even if there is a total failure of the double hydraulic system, there is a set of manual flying controls.

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Capt. Kim Campbell sustained this damage over Bagdad and flew for another hour before returning to base. But, back to that gun.

It's so hard to grasp just how powerful it is.
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This is the closest I could find to showing you just what this cartridge is all about. What the guy is holding is NOT the 30mm round, but a"little" 50 Browning machine gun roundand the 20mm cannon round which has been around for a long time. The 30mm is MUCH bigger.
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Down at the bottom are the .50 BMG and 20x102 Vulcan the fellow was holding. At the bottom right is the bad boy we're discussing.

Let's get some perspective here: The .223 Rem (M16 rifle round) is fast.
It shoots a 55 or so grain bullet at about 3300 feet/sec, give or take. It's the fastest of all those rounds shown (except one). When you move up to the ..30 caliber rounds, the bullets jump up in weight to 160-200 grains. Speeds run from about 2600 to 3000 fps or so.

The .338 Lapua is the king of the sniper rifles these days and shoots a 350 grain bullet at 2800 fps or so.
They kill bad guys at over a mile with that one.

The 50 BMG is really big. Mike Beasley has one on his desk.
Everyone who picks it up thinks it's some sort of fake, unless they know big ammo. It's really huge with a bullet that weighs 750 grains and goes as fast the Lapua.

I don't have data on the Vulcan, but hold on. The bullet for the 30x173 Avenger has an aluminum jacket around a spent uranium core and weighs 6560 grains (yes, over 100 times as heavy as the M16 bullet, and flies through the air at 3500 fps (which is faster than the M16 as well).

The gun shoots at a rate of 4200 rounds per minute, Yes, four thousand.
Pilots typically shoot either one- or two-second burst which set loose 70 to 150 rounds.

The system is optimized for shooting at 4,000 feet.

OK, the best for last.

You've got a pretty good idea of how big that cartridge is, but I'll bet you're like me and you don't fully appreciate how big the GA GAU-8 Avenger really is.

Take a look.
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Each of those seven barrels is 112" long.
That's almost ten feet.
The entire gun is 19-1/2 feet long.

Think how impressive it would look set up in your living room.

Oh, by the way, it doesn't eject the empty shells but runs them back into the storage drum. There's just so dang many flying out, they felt it might damage the aircraft.

Oh yeah, I forgot, they can hang those bomb and rocket things on 'em too, just in case.
After all, it is an "airplane"!

Like I said, this is a beautiful design.
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I'm glad it's ours.

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Sorry for the long post, but I really am in awe of the amazing "Warthog". Yeah, they are slow, but I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of its firepower.

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kflips

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Awesome weapons -- wish the airforce saw more value in close ground support - may end up being one of the few remaining piloted aircraft in 20 years.
 

LagunaH1

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I love the A-10. I love how uncompromising its design it (kinda like a Hummer is for 4x4's) and how its looks is largely dictated by function, and nothing else.

Oh, and, it works too:
[video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKRt2DYMvdU[/video]
 

RuggedH2

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When the Air Force wants to retire these... I'm sure the Marine Corps would like a crack at keeping them running. :)
 

ReconH3

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By far my favorite fixed wing aircraft ever. I hope they never retire them. They fill a niche that no other aircraft has yet substituted. If they do, I hope the Marines do get it. They always find great use of equipment nobody else wants.


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Bigunit

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Here are a couple other good videos showing the "Hog from Hell" doing exactly what they were designed to do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bMfrixJyWc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJSk2Xc3Eq4

Rugged,
It looks like the Marines are in for a long wait, as the A-10 currently is being upgraded & modernized & is scheduled to be in service with the USAF until 2028 and possibly later, when it might be replaced by the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning Ii. Critics have responded by saying that replacing the A-10 with the F-35 would be a "giant leap backwards" given the performance of the Warthog and the rising costs of the F-35 program.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/a-highertech-hog-the-a10c-pe-program-03187/
 

LagunaH1

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I don't know if this is true, but I heard that the recoil from the gun is so powerful it will actually slow the A-10
 

Bigunit

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A few years ago, the A-10 crew here at Davis-Monthan AFB created a little project, a 1979 Dodge Van that was modified to better suit their needs. I remember seeing this van around town every now & then. Check it out, very cool!

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Trevon

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A few years ago, the A-10 crew here at Davis-Monthan AFB created a little project, a 1979 Dodge Van that was modified to better suit their needs. I remember seeing this van around town every now & then. Check it out, very cool!

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I've seen that in a few videos hah

I don't know if this is true, but I heard that the recoil from the gun is so powerful it will actually slow the A-10

That is just an old myth, it might slow it 1-2 knots, but I've heard people saying it can stop the plane in the air...which just isn't true.
 

05Mudiak

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I work around these things everyday, well when I amhomeat Barksdale. They are an awesome jet. It would def be my choice if I got to leave the B-52 world.

Oh yes the gun does slow the jet but it is just a tiny bit but stop it hahaha nope... Some videos of it shooting you can actually see the jet recoil with the gun.
 
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