Trading in for a Raptor?

[RamRod]

I am strongly considering parting out certain parts of my T (Hutchinsons, Sliders, etc.) and trading in my T for a Raptor or something similar.

Here are a few reasons why:
-Tired of the constant maintenance.... And the maintenance costs
-Would be easier to sell while it still has low miles (60,xxx)
-Parts are always 5-10 days away and twice as much then any other car it seems
-No trails to offroad on the island wide enough (just dirt bikes quads and those small Suzuki's can fit)
-The truck seems to keep going through halfshafts like crazy
-Need a reliable dd
-Getting 11mpg sucks

I am going to fix my current front suspension and steering issues and drive the T for a month or two before making any decisions. But I figured I would get some input from you guys first (I know I am prob going to get a biased answer here but it's all food for thought)

Cheers,





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[Bigunit]

RamRod, snap out of it.
-Any vehicle requires maintenance.
-You won't always live on an island with no trails and you own a very rare rig. Save it for the day and time that you can release the hound on somewhere other than an island.
-The fact you live on an island makes mpg a "state of mind" - how far can you really drive before you get to the edges of the island. Get yourself a daily driver that gets better mileage to get you around that island until the day that you get voted off the island.
-Buy OEM halfshafts that last longer than the after market ones and/or figure out why you are going through them so fast - adjust/lower the torsion bars to reduce the angles you are running them on currently.

Bottom line, it's your decision in the end and we will all face that decision some day but if I were you, I would never part with my T as long as I can afford to keep it running. Who in their right mind owns a HUMMER for the mpg to begin with? [emoji12]

 

[Scarsman]

If you do, you need to come down here first so I can fab the front skid plate!

I don't think you would see much better mileage from a Raptor! But there's no denying they are cool trucks. My cousin has one, and they are pretty sweet. When you really think about it, they actually offer more if you get past the unique factor of the H3T and just honestly compare truck to truck. Stock with 35"s, stronger drive train, more room both inside and in the bed, some pretty cool tech gadgets, and LOTS more power. And that's not even starting to look at the aftermarket support.

 

[Renagade132]

Keep the Hummer

 

[06 H3]

From a cool standpoint H3T all day, especially a lifted supercharged one.

I agree with Luis, what halfshafts are you currently running? If they are some crappy brand you will piss through them. PM Zach for better ones.

Raptors are cool but they wont get you better MPG then the H3T and they are even wider on the trails.

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

PSA annoucement.

be sure you get the heated-tailgate model ... we wouldn't want you to freeze your fingers off while you push that Ford in the great white north.

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

What, you expected support? :ha:

 

[scoreh3]

Ok let me start by saying the Raptor is a way cool bad ass off-road truck and it rocks the unpaved earth it was built to rule . Now let's look at costs , just how many repairs will you have to do to your T before you get to the $70K a Raptor will cost your . Oh and if you think that F150 parts will work on it , well wrong . That beast is 8in wider , so there goes the suspension and body mods from a cheaper F150. MPG part , it's a street legal race truck ( yes Ford raced there first Raptor in the Baja 1000 in stock form and placed ) ...
Ok that being said , if it's about money stay with your T . If it's about high speed fun , having a bad ass truck and you have lots of money to spend go get the Raptor and hang on . Or even better , find Chris 06H3 and have him design and build u an H3T-Rex and go Raptor hunting .
PS have you seen the price of aftermarket stuff for the Raptor ?

 

[cgalpha08]

I would get a cheap DD and garage/store the H3. That's what i'm doing and every time I break out the H3 it puts a hugeeeee smile on my face. Unless i'm down where CJ lives its one of the most unique vehicles around here.

 

[rsc]

Here are a few reasons why:
-Tired of the constant maintenance.... And the maintenance costs You will be trading maintenance costs for a monthly payment and the security of it being "new". how long before the new is gone and it breaks down too?
-Would be easier to sell while it still has low miles (60,xxx) Now that you are over 60K and out of warranty, I wouldn't worry about mileage until you start getting closer to 100K.
-Parts are always 5-10 days away and twice as much then any other car it seems The Raptor is a specialty vehicle, you will find the parts are going to be harder to find. Even from the dealer.
-No trails to offroad on the island wide enough (just dirt bikes quads and those small Suzuki's can fit) You had better Line-X the sides of the Raptor, they are WIDE. They work best when you can open them up and give them room to work.
-The truck seems to keep going through halfshafts like crazy Look into Raptor problems, early bent/cracked frames come to mind immediately and if you blow a shock its $700 each
-Need a reliable dd
-Getting 11mpg sucks Yep, and it still will in the Raptor too.

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Weigh the options, figure out what the H3T does not offer that you would get in the Raptor. Where is the Raptor better than the H3T and if those areas are what you really need. I will bet that the only thing that you are going to get out of the swap is a more reliable vehicle and bigger payments. The Raptor is a great truck, so is the H3T. Just pick what you need it to do for you and decide if all you really want is it to be "new".

 

[SedonaBound]

I think the H3T is going to become a serious collector truck and will hold value unless beat up or modded; the really low mile and clean ones will appreciate. That said, if you need a DD to rack up high miles, and 'wheel hard on weekends, the T may not be the best choice for the same reasons. But I doubt a Raptor is either. I've read they have serious issues...maybe that's why there isn't a 2015 raptor. Unless you buy a 2014 model, there won't be any until the 2017 is intro'd sometime next year. Plus, the aluminum body is an experiment and wouldn't want to be Ford's guinea pig on my "nickel". If full AL bodies were practical for DDs, they'd have been adopted decades ago. An AL body on a truck, especially an offroad truck, seems nuts. Lastly, twin turbos or not, a V6 will always sound like a V6.

 

[fatkatsupra]

I would do some serious research on the raptor forums. I have been looking at moving to a 2017 raptor and have been doing research to find the raptor weak points. Some real big ones so far: the fox shocks rust instantly, the IWEs fail leaving you with a broken 4wd, the raptor guys hate being 2wd all the time unless they are on dirt, and their mileage is even worse than the 3T etc... NOT bagging on the raptor - just want you to know you could trading one set of problems for a diff set. The more I look into it - I am not sure I could pull the trigger on a 2017 jist bc the h3t is so unique.

 

[GoBlueHummer]

4500 H3T's. That's it. Forever.

 

[3Hummers]

Both cool trucks. Tough choice. Asking your question on a Hummer forum will get you predictable answers. I agree with what has been posted so far.

 

[SedonaBound]

4500 H3T's. That's it. Forever.

Not even that anymore. I'd like to know how many Ts are still on the road considering 1500 were for rental fleets. Not only rare, but a stand-out truck too.

 

[rsc]

Asking your question on a Hummer forum will get you predictable answers.

BAM! He didn't even stand a chance! ;P

 

[frumaker]

I went from an H3 to a raptor and have now gotten rid of the raptor. The raptor was pretty cool but I liked the H3 way more. The raptor has a lot of hidden weak points and problems that needs a lot of money to either beef up or replace. Unless you want to do beach driving or stuff like that, keep the hummer. The maintenance on the raptor is rediculous. So don't get rid of the the hummer for a raptor due to maintenence cuz the cost is gonna be a lot more and it's way less capable. You have made that hummer yours and customized it to your needs as I did my hummer. It's a lot harder and more expensive to do that with a raptor.

If I could, I would want to have my H3 back and the raptor gets ****ty gas mileage too

 

[RamRod]

I just got out of the truck after driving it for about 45 min around town, I think one of the biggest things bothering me right now is the super sloppy steering, but like I said I have a bunch of replacement parts coming that will hopefully fix that. (New steering rack, new tie rods, new PS pump, new lower control arm bushings, new Rancho sway bar link to replace the worn out one).

Lots of good food for thought, and I know it's all biased, but that's okay, a large part of me know it's always greener on the other side, and I might as well stick with the unique truck that will still have the maintenance issues as something like a Raptor...

Good to know about your Raptor experience Fru, I am planning on going for a test drive in a bunch of different 4x4's to see if there really is anything to gain by switching first hand.


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[RamRod]

I would get a cheap DD and garage/store the H3. That's what i'm doing and every time I break out the H3 it puts a hugeeeee smile on my face. Unless i'm down where CJ lives its one of the most unique vehicles around here.

I have thought about picking up a old motor bike to do most of my running around on.... There are a bunch of sweet 80's Honda XlR600's around here that would fit the bill nicely for 8 months of the year


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[RamRod]

If you do, you need to come down here first so I can fab the front skid plate!

I don't think you would see much better mileage from a Raptor! But there's no denying they are cool trucks. My cousin has one, and they are pretty sweet. When you really think about it, they actually offer more if you get past the unique factor of the H3T and just honestly compare truck to truck. Stock with 35"s, stronger drive train, more room both inside and in the bed, some pretty cool tech gadgets, and LOTS more power. And that's not even starting to look at the aftermarket support.

Yes don't you worry I will be keeping it for sure until the end of summer


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[frumaker]

When I went searching for something to replace the hummer, the raptor and power wagon were the only options. Now after getting rid of the raptor, I decided to buy a cummins 2500 to haul around a jeep that I bought cheap to build up. But i still miss the hummer

 

[Woodtick]

They don't look very sturdy to me. But seriously , your insurance may double. That's another big complaint I've been told.

 

[Ghostbuster]

Lmao! Someone fixed that one too!! Can't believe it. They do hold their value pretty well though.

 

[LoJac963]

I'll be honest, I don't know much about the H3's or the Raptors. I just know they are both awesome vehicles. Add in the H3T and my mouth waters. My father used to own an H3 and while it was definitely "cool" I was never a fan. H3T's though are hands down one of the best looking vehicles I have seen. There aren't many here in AZ from what I've seen but when I do see one I usually circle it a few times in the 2 like a lion in the brush lol. I would love to own one but they definitely pull a premium. I'd keep it, I easily see them shooting up in value years down the road.

 

[ABNTROOP]

I dunno man, I think it would be a real shame to see you let go of the T. That being said, you want more reliability? Start with yanking that supercharger off. Then put some OEM half shafts in, and start leaving early to get where ya gotta go. Hummers are comfy cruisers, take it slow & easy and enjoy the ride