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Wild West Offroad is up for doing the H3 Trail IFS Kit

06 H3

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Ifs just needed time to become better. It's new while solid axle has been around since cars have started being build well over a century ago.

Ifs will become better and cheaper over the next 20 years.

I have a ton of questions bebe, do I call him? Email him? Or give them to you? Either way I will post them up here so I can give off some thoughts and ideas.

#1 I know you don't DD this setup anymore but is it capable of doing the DD task? I know your main reason was price of a 38in tire.

#2 will the drop cradle be the same as yours netting about 6in of lift? If possible the smaller the cradle the better but I understand the more you go in the more issue you have with trans pan clearance. Not sure if a different pumpkin can help this.

#3 will the stock rack be used? I know you mentioned a relocation for it. If so can it handle 38in + tires with the new mounting? I know before the reason for failure was mounting but when will sheer size be the limitation?

#4 this probably won't be known until later but if a "bare bones" kit could be done to lower price I'd go for that. Ill just need the pre fabbed parts I can weld on the rest.

Finally, with what bebe said she's spot on at all points. This kit isn't for everyone but for the new wave of technology this will be awesome. This is for the hardcore wheeler who wants to go anywhere. Taking an H3 down dirt roads and even tough trails can be done at a slower pace but when you get into tougher trails you need a better setup and its not cheap. Going back to a built to the hilt axle of a jeep it will cost thousands. RCV D60 axle shafts cost over 1k so if you wanna do the toughest stuff around it will cost you a bit of money. I plan on taking my H3 through the hammers, rubicon, fordyce and pushing it on trails never done before. A very tame example of that is mottino wash. No H3 has done it and Bspec thought an H3 couldn't do it but I did. Thts what I'm after. Putting an H3 in places where stock vehicles (jeep or hummer or Toyota) don't go.

Only thing I didn't agree with was the rancho kit. Added clearance, level cv's give you more down travel compared to t bar crank all make it better then stock but the limiting factor is the components itself. The spring over amplified the capabilities of a rancho lifted rig but I want bigger tires and better gearing and a vehicle that can continue to take me rock crawling desert high speed stuff snow mud a trip to the mtn a for snowboarding my ride to work and school and this will hopefully do all of that in a reliable fashion
 

High Five H2

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gonna go rob a bank, brb.

Just kidding. reading your build thread is what changed my mind about an SAS. If these guys are still doing this in 5 years then I'm down :'(
 

3Hummers

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If I can ever pry the H3 out of JJ's hands and convert it to a trail only rig I would do this in a heartbeat. Top quality parts, know how and labor will always pay off in the long run. Of course when PCF starts selling the mini Scorpions..........
 

ALPHA of JONESY

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Hey Bebe, I love your knowledge and words of wisdom. I have been around this stuff since I was a kid and I always learn so much reading your posts.

All in all, this is a great advancement for us H3 people because no one wants to take the time to develop an advanced suspension for us even though there are thousands of us out there. I probably see 10-20 Hummers (H1, H2 & H3's) everyday and it sucks that we are looked at like a redheaded step child of some offroad groups. If I wasn't in the middle of trying to get my Chevelle build I would be scraping together cash and driving to Wild West to have this done. Regardless, I am looking forward to seeing this develop and planning on making the move to a better set up as soon as I can.

Hopefully Wild West will design different package levels so WE don't have to spend a ton of scratch up front.
 

RamRod

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There are quite a few Ultra 4 rigs in your area if you want to see them on trail

I've been trying to get involved in the local 4x4 community as much as I can and I know of only one.... Guess I'll have t check on pirate more!
 

High Five H2

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Just a thought, but I wonder if you could get a hold of a wrecked 08-09 H2 and cannibalize the engine, tranny, transfer case, axles, brakes, etc. Do a hi travel IFS, 4 link rear engine swap.
 

rsc

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Just a thought, but I wonder if you could get a hold of a wrecked 08-09 H2 and cannibalize the engine, tranny, transfer case, axles, brakes, etc. Do a hi travel IFS, 4 link rear engine swap.

Dude! For a second I thought you were talking about a mid-engine V8 H3 with 4 wheel steering and a long travel IFS front. That would be pretty unique. Then I re-read it again... :no:
 

06 H3

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yep the price adds up quick, thats for sure. Even doing it on the cheap you still will get pretty pricey.
 
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