I'm ****ed

[derian06]

No one on the forum has done a 3.7-5.3 swap?


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[digglesworth]

Early 07s are the same as 06s I think. Later 07s are different I think. You'd have to get someone to confirm that though.

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

No one on the forum has done a 3.7-5.3 swap?


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it's cheaper to sell yours and buy an alpha.

 

[derian06]

it's cheaper to sell yours and buy an alpha.

Wouldn't the swap only run 8g max? I'm already going to have to put in a new pcm, ecm, bcm, and fuse box. If i replaced those with an alphas wouldn't it be the same as putting in another I5?


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[skeptic]

Flooded vehicle = likely electrical gremlins down the road. Everything from engine computers and sensors to door locks and HVAC controls. Since it sounds like you are pretty well stuck and willing to do lots of work yourself, I'd start by draining and refilling every fluid. Take out as much of the interior as you can, clean it all up, examine wiring behind the dash, inside the doors, all that stuff. Make sure the HVAC ducts are cleaned out - you don't want a moldy smell coming out of your vents every time you turn on the fan. Don't get tunnel vision on the engine or an engine swap just yet, it sounds like the engine itself MIGHT be ok. Don't be surprised if things like the alternator, AC pump or PS pump die in the near future.

Flooding a vehicle is bad, but if you can't go through insurance and don't want to part it out or junk it you should be able to get it back on the road. It's just a question of time and money.

 

[derian06]

Its at a trusted shop right now and they're doing all of the above.


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[06 H3]

3hummers is right. Honesty will help you if you go through insurance. All lies eventually catch up to you.

I say forget the motor swap until you have a reason to do one. Like the motor being ****ed. Did you drain the diffs yet? If you drain em and it's nasty I would then pull the cover to see if mud is caked in there too.

Good luck, I would not even key on electronics yet alone start it for a while. Whatever is done is done but I would leave it now.

 

[06 H3]

That's why I would want it at my house and not a shop. You don't know what they can do. Some shops you can trust but lately I'm cynical of shops especially because one I trusted definitely screwed me.

 

[chad]

I am waiting for Skippy to chime in. There is something about Yellow that attracts it to deep water I guess. Kinda like Slate Blue attracts tree limbs.

i agree with that something weird about yellow and water. my friends, he only paid about 3k to get it fixed in the one with the bulldozer, the other didnt cost anything just a long night and a m35 duece to get it out,

 

[IISPEEDYII]

I am waiting for Skippy to chime in. There is something about Yellow that attracts it to deep water I guess. Kinda like Slate Blue attracts tree limbs.

Hahaha I second that for the Slate Blue... I just washed my car, my whole passenger side has some tree branch scars. Thank god for the roof rack though, I had to use that to push up a tree over the roof.

 

[derian06]

3hummers is right. Honesty will help you if you go through insurance. All lies eventually catch up to you.

I say forget the motor swap until you have a reason to do one. Like the motor being ****ed. Did you drain the diffs yet? If you drain em and it's nasty I would then pull the cover to see if mud is caked in there too.

Good luck, I would not even key on electronics yet alone start it for a while. Whatever is done is done but I would leave it now.

We aren't lying about anything, it's just honestly worth the money if we don't go to insurance. And he said he was going to drain everything, he already has fans and everything drying out the electronics, this isn't the first swamped car he's worked on.


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[derian06]

i agree with that something weird about yellow and water. my friends, he only paid about 3k to get it fixed in the one with the bulldozer, the other didnt cost anything just a long night and a m35 duece to get it out,

Mine was really easy to get out, i just had to figure out how to force it into neutral. I got pulled 3/4 if the way out in park and at first i got pulled 1/4 of the way out by a 4 wheeler.

I broke the #1 rule always have someone to pull you out.

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[3Hummers]

Hopefully if you drain and flush everything, pull the plugs before turning it over, etc most will be ok. You will probably have some electrical issues to deal with. I would plan on separating, drying and di-electric grease on all connections. Maybe the interior carpet, seats etc can be saved. You could do most of it yourself.

 

[Can007]

I honestly believe it is not as bad as it looks.

 

[chad]

hey i dont know who you have for insurance but this got me thinking so i called my company, and asked if this thing happened to me would i be covered, and they said yes, doesnt matter how or why if its messed up then it would be covered, must fall under the policy where if anything crazy non crash related happens covers it, i have state farm if that helps. may be worth calling and just see what they say and how much if any will your premium would go up, nothing they can do negative to you for talking to them because if you dont do a claim then it doesnt affect them.

 

[Bananatank]

hey i dont know who you have for insurance but this got me thinking so i called my company, and asked if this thing happened to me would i be covered, and they said yes, doesnt matter how or why if its messed up then it would be covered, must fall under the policy where if anything crazy non crash related happens covers it, i have state farm if that helps. may be worth calling and just see what they say and how much if any will your premium would go up, nothing they can do negative to you for talking to them because if you dont do a claim then it doesnt affect them.

Thats some really good advice[emoji106] idk if you've done that yet derian might be worth a shot.


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[2010H3TAlpha]

And if the motor is done for should i drop a 5.3L in instead of a 3.7? What would be the difference besides a new pcm? I'm already going to have to get new electronics. Might as well upgrade.


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If you're replacing the motor, go straight for the 6.0

I would park it in a garage ASAP with windows down and a dehumidifier running on HI, I have this one and it is fantastic:

http://www.amazon.com/Frigidaire-FA...8&qid=1406231782&sr=8-2&keywords=dehumidifier

I agree with others, go to your insurance and get it back to the condition it was in before the incident. Then sell it for an Alpha.

 

[derian06]

Insurance would total it and a 6.0 would run me like 14g right?


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[SuperBuickGuy]

Flooding a vehicle is bad, but if you can't go through insurance and don't want to part it out or junk it you should be able to get it back on the road. It's just a question of time and money.

and skill - this isn't a job just any monkey can take on.

and don't forget your transfer case, transmission, and both axles are now full of water.

 

[2010H3TAlpha]

Insurance would total it and a 6.0 would run me like 14g right?


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I was mostly kidding with the 6.0 comment, $14k sounds like a shop rate. I'd do it myself but it wouldn't be my first motor swap. If insurance totals is that is okay, you'll get $$$ towards an Alpha. Right now you essentially have a salvage vehicle that just hasn't been reported as one. I sure wouldn't want to keep it.

 

[derian06]

I'm still leaning towards the 5.3 swap, colorado forums say its not bad at all. They said its almost the same as putting in another 3.7 but again this is all just ideas until we figure out damage costs and if the motor is fried. If its anywhere from 3,000-10,000$ we're going to fix it. Anything more and we'll have to total it.

Also how does water get into the axles if they're closed off? Just wondering.


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[atvspeed4]

Breather tubes

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[skeptic]

and skill - this isn't a job just any monkey can take on.

and don't forget your transfer case, transmission, and both axles are now full of water.

That's where the money part comes in - not only parts, but paying someone to fix what you can't.

I'm still leaning towards the 5.3 swap, colorado forums say its not bad at all. They said its almost the same as putting in another 3.7 but again this is all just ideas until we figure out damage costs and if the motor is fried. If its anywhere from 3,000-10,000$ we're going to fix it. Anything more and we'll have to total it.

Also how does water get into the axles if they're closed off? Just wondering.


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Axles are not closed off. They have vent tubes that have likely sucked a bunch of water in them as they cooled.

 

[derian06]

The guys i'm working with are some real southern grease monkeys. He could fit a 7.3L V8 in a toyota camry. He does this kind of stuff all the time. And if its only 1-2g more then putting another I5 in i'm doing it.


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[derian06]

As far as the difference in suspension between the alpha and i5 it's just the leaf springs right?


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