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zackcrum

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Ha! Except Toyota is not undergoing bankruptcy restructuring which makes you wonder who is making the decisions over there. Such a weird company...
This is true. Maybe they will use those assembly lines to make another supra! I have a mkIII and I would love to see a new one to compete with Nissans "godzilla" R35
 

derian06

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My question is, what exactly makes an fj more off road capable than the h3? Gearing? Power? Departure and approach angles? Coil overs? Looking like an over sized bug? Haha
 

High Five H2

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they aren't more capable. every comparison I've read in the midsize category says the H3 is way more capable. They usually rank them Wrangler, H3, FJ, Xterra....................liberty... eventually.. lol.

even though the H3 has leaf springs and torsion bars, it manages to articulate better than even the base 4 door wrangler. I know rubicons with the sway bars disconnected flex better, and I'm not sure how the 2 door JKs do.
 

derian06

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they aren't more capable. every comparison I've read in the midsize category says the H3 is way more capable. They usually rank them Wrangler, H3, FJ, Xterra....................liberty... eventually.. lol.

even though the H3 has leaf springs and torsion bars, it manages to articulate better than even the base 4 door wrangler. I know rubicons with the sway bars disconnected flex better, and I'm not sure how the 2 door JKs do.

I thought our articulation was worse than a stock wrangler? Or is that just flex? We have about 5" of travel with the stock ifs don't we?

And I agree with the offroad capability of the 3, i just watch youtube videos and there is always "hummer sucks" and things like that. I was just trying to figure out where the hate comes from.
 

Bigunit

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Simple jealousy. Every owner of every 4x4 believes that what they drive is the ultimate, best , badass rig since cavemen fed off dinosaurs! [emoji12] It's a "Quien es mas macho" sort of thing. All of us here know one basic truth - HUMMERS can wheel as good as and with any mass-produced 4x4 and they all have their strengths and weaknesses and you can spend lots of $$$$$ trying to make it the ultimate 4x4 no matter what you drive. For most of us who own these rigs and wheel them, we know the limitations of our rigs and we are OK with that, for what we like to do. The sky is the limit if you want to spend all your money re-tooling any vehicle. That's what makes this a great hobby/past-time since NONE of us here is a professional HUMMER
owner whose life and occupation depends on what we drive, that's assuming that Rod Hall isn't a H4O member. [emoji12]
 

06 H3

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I havent read all the posts but the last 2 (bigunit and poweraidon) but from what they have said I assume its about capability...I love the H3 and it will go many places! Exclude all buggies, scorpions, custom built vehicles, etc. Im talking the 4x4 you buy off the lot then modify it. It will run with any off the lot vehicle stock vs stock even the rubicon. Now modify a rubicon, long arm it, throw 35s-37s on it. rancho/spring over an H3 run GOOD 35s and you will keep up if you know how to drive an H3. H3s are different wheelers then any other rig. I drove my brothers JK off road and I did ****ty with it until I drove it for a bit to get used to how it reacts. I have been wheeling the H3 for 6 years, started out on dirt roads with some mud on em and progressed to the tougher trails. My favorite picture I have of squeaky is on clawhammer. Its squeaky with a buggy in front of me and buggies behind me, then there is a regular ole H3. Its not the toughest trail at hammers but its not the easiest, it definitely was a trail that had many people asking me why the hell is there an H3 out here. It got stuck and I beat the **** out of it but with bald 35s it did me no good. For the so cal guys who know John Bull. The easiest part of clawhammer was tougher then the toughest part of John Bull.

An H3 will do things on 2-3 wheels that another rig needs 4 wheels on the ground. These things kickass. Honestly, there shortcomings are the same as there strong suits. The awesome electronic system WORKS if you use it right but an electric shifting t case sucks when an ABS wire gets cut.

All vehicles have pros and cons for me I am a hummer guy. Wont ever own a jeep, I may own some isuzu trooper or some oddball rig one day for a future wife but for me now that I have basically chopped up an H3. I have less fear to tackle other things. I would love to see a LOW budget H2 SAS. Forget coilovers and bypass shocks. SAS that bitch with a late model Dodge dana 60. AAM makes the axle just like they do for the H2 and H3 axle. Those tone rings are identical and chevy truck guys use there OEM abs wires and they plug right into the dodge axle and the computer never knows the difference. Run some dodge or ford trucks for an H2 because its a heavy moose and run that thing on the toughest trails around. It will drop jaws all day.

Ignore the haters, people tell me all the time I cant do that but I do...

If only they made a stronger front end, I am doing this SAS for strength and a regear. Locked up front and rear with 35s and my rancho/spring over the thing kicked ass. Its just I wanted 37s regear and strength. An H3 kicks ass when the front diff isnt sounding like a blender.
 

06 H3

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I thought our articulation was worse than a stock wrangler? Or is that just flex? We have about 5" of travel with the stock ifs don't we?

And I agree with the offroad capability of the 3, i just watch youtube videos and there is always "hummer sucks" and things like that. I was just trying to figure out where the hate comes from.

DISCONNECT THE H3 SWAY BARS! You will be amazed!!
 

derian06

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DISCONNECT THE H3 SWAY BARS! You will be amazed!!

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This is with the rear still attached, and the front and rear sway bars? That one picture of squeaky flexing on the rocks, i wish I could be more specific, but man that picture is amazing!

We need a post your flex thread...
 
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