This setup is wat most members do. Shocks are firmer, bump stops make the ride more controlled but as a result more bumpy (I had em installed and removed them, prefer the comfier ride despite the slight nose dive when hard braking). I drove 35s on 16 and 17s, i realized that on 16s the truck felt more comfortable offroad. On 18s it wld be rougher.
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if its a daily driver trail grapplers.
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I'm a bit bias, but that should be obvious by my signature.
Crank the torsion bars to 23.5, buy my shackles and high clearance leaf spring mount, mount 35 inch tires on the factory rims, get it aligned, go have some fun, and save your cash for something more important.
I think extend bump stops are a bad idea, the ride is much smoother with the vehicle not resting on the bump stops. The front end dive is not even an issue for me, and I wish no one ever brought it's such a non issue for me. Bilsteins are cool, but a waste of money if you ask me, the stock work perfectly fine. I'm absolutely against aftermarket rims, unless they have beadlocks, because they do nothing but look pretty, might as well buy a hood scoop, or a wing.
As for tires, you really can't go wrong, their all good companies. Just make sure to keep them balanced, and air down to 14-16 psi when going off road.
If you really want to lift it, start looking at Solid axle swaps for the front end and spring over axle swaps for the rear.
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I agree on the fact that there is no need on extending the bump stops. Even on my heavier H2, the nose dive is hardly even noticeable and the ride is so much better.
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Much Appreciated all the Great Feedback ... Well, I got a lot to think about which route to go!
As schwarttzy said. Level it, extended shackles and 35s. Great look and much more money left to invest in a winch/sliders, ucp etc...
I personally did that, minus the ucp but I also wanted to benefit from handling that u only get from a wider stance (hence my offset wheels). Plus 35s were only available on 17s here!
When it comes to lifting, an h3 with a bodylift is not much shorter than a rancho if you get what I mean.
I personally did that, minus the ucp but I also wanted to benefit from handling that u only get from a wider stance (hence my offset wheels). Plus 35s were only available on 17s here!
When it comes to lifting, an h3 with a bodylift is not much shorter than a rancho if you get what I mean.
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I agree with amrg. In your case, leveling, 35's, offset wheels and a bodylift is the way to go imho... This setup will give you a truck that is 1" shorter than a stock H2... And leaves you with plenty of money to improve the look and performance of your vehicle. The Rancho is beautiful, but only gives you an inch of extra clearance over this set up. Now I know every bit of clearance counts, but I wasn't prepared to pay $4800 for a lousy inch (shipping to middle east is hefty).
Take a look...
My H3 vs Stock.... This puts things into perspective.
Lifted H3 vs stock H2... Remember, this isn't the Rancho... Just a bodylift, 35's, leveling and spacers. With an LED light bar, you'll make that difference on top.
Hope this was helpful, if it was.. plz click the 'thanks' button :thumbs:
Take a look...
My H3 vs Stock.... This puts things into perspective.
Lifted H3 vs stock H2... Remember, this isn't the Rancho... Just a bodylift, 35's, leveling and spacers. With an LED light bar, you'll make that difference on top.
Hope this was helpful, if it was.. plz click the 'thanks' button :thumbs:
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Umm you get 3" extra in terms of clearance at the mid section (which is important for breakover) as well as improving both approach and departure angles. But body wise, a rancho would still be 2" higher.
It all depends on what you want, and how much you want to pay.
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Agree, they also stop your tire from occasionally contacting the top of the wheel well when driving fast over uneven terrain, like dune bashing.
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The alpha torsion bars are stiffer so all suspension movements are slower. For example u dnt get the right to left bouncing when u drop from kerbs. Plus if u dnt have a gap between the bump stop and the control arm, ur gna feel every small bump on the road.
Love these shackles. Installed them along with new front tires and new balancing on all four and truck drives much better and looks mean. Lol but seriously the shackles do make an improvement on a slightly sagging rear
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Some of you say go Rancho, and others say buy shackles/bump stops/etc ... !
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Of course Ray, everyone isn't going to agree, just offer different perspectives. Decision is yours but now you have input from people who did different things to help you.
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The reason I say go Shackles, Leaf Spring Mounts, Crank the Torsion Bars is because the price difference for the Rancho is a much bigger commitment and if I remember you can't go back to factory because you cut some things off. Were as the I know I could install the shackles, leaf spring mounts, crank the torsion bars, then go off-road for a few hours, come back home and then put the Hummer back to factory specs. On top of that you have all that cash to spend on something else, perhaps a vacation where you actually use it. That's why I recommend trying the simpler, cheaper, and faster option before making such a commitment.
Definitely do the 35's, shackles, leveling and maybe a body lift first. If you find that you need more height for your conditions offroad then look at upgrading to a Rancho kit. If (as I suspect) you just want a tall, bad-a$$ looking truck to drive around town then Rancho should do it fot you. Also remember that your wheel/tire combo can make it LOOK beefier too, 18-20" wheels and 35" MT's look better friday night at the Dairy Queen.
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one thing to remember ray is the wheels must have the correct off set when you install the rancho kit. (+29 i think from memory)
i have done both at one stage or another.
if you can afford it I would go the rancho line. but if the price is too much you will be happy with the cranking of the t-bars.
tyres seem a bit expensive for over there. Ithat is what we pay and we get ripped off over here.
i have done both at one stage or another.
if you can afford it I would go the rancho line. but if the price is too much you will be happy with the cranking of the t-bars.
tyres seem a bit expensive for over there. Ithat is what we pay and we get ripped off over here.
Look at what was at the bottom of the page as a suggested, similar post-
http://www.hummer4x4offroad.com/for...kstars-Nitto-Trail-Grapplers-Rancho-Lift-Kit-!!!!!!!!!!!!
Deja vu all over again?
http://www.hummer4x4offroad.com/for...kstars-Nitto-Trail-Grapplers-Rancho-Lift-Kit-!!!!!!!!!!!!
Deja vu all over again?