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Alignment specs after leveling

Pappibri

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Last time I went to Firestone to have my alignment done, I let them know that I had leveled the H3 and they asked if I had the specs that I wanted to have it set at. I said no, because I dont know what they should be, so they set it to factory specs. Now it seems as if the outer edge of my tires is wearing more than the inner... What is the problem, and does anyone know what the specs is after leveling? I have it at 23 1/4? Thanks for any help on this matter.:thumbs:
 

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The pre-level alignment specs for my '09 T & CE are these - don't know if their are any different "official" post-level alignment specs.
 

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I would guess that you would need to vary the above OEM specs after you level by using the factory ride height as your baseline. There is specific ride height criteria that is defined by the z-height and d height. The H3s z-height is 151mm +/- 5 mm (0.20 in ) and the d height is 171 +/- 12 mm (0.47 in ). You can measure the frame angle then crank up the t bars to whatever you want and re-measure the frame angle. You then can compensate the caster adjustment using the difference in the angles. The service manual say that "Trim height must be verified and adjusted before aligning the vehicle".

So, as to specific alignment specs for a leveled H3, I don't think there are any. I guess that you have to trust Firestone to align your H3 so that it tracks straight. Hope this helps.
 

JGBB04

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Check the Web sites on some of the makers of leveling kits, one of them had specs with their install instructions. I know it was posted some where & I have a copy I'll try to find.
 

arkalpha

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I'm not sure of the specs , but a good alinngmet guy should be able to do it. I leveled mine in my garage and took it to my old front end guy at the tire store I worked at for 11 years. It took about 45 minutes and he was finished. Drove it a 18 months and keep the tires rotated, without any irregular tire wear and the steering wheel was straight. It drove exactly like it did before I leveled it. I guess long story short, I would go to a couple of tire shops and talk to their front end man (not the counter guy) and see what they say.

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Pappibri

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Since I leveled it, I have had it aligned 3 times. Once after leveling it, then again after Drummond Island when my wheel was askew, then I recranked the bars cause it seemed like it settled so I took it there again. The first two times I did not notice any irregular tire wear, but after the last time I do now. I will check around and see what I can find on specs. I will also compare my print out to 08Alphas that he posted for me. Thanks gentlemen.:thumbs:
 

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Here are the alignment specs for the Truxx leveling kit - they are at the bottom of the page. http://traxda.com/int/403010.pdf Keep in mind that these specs are for the kit that levels the front end at 24.25"!
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Left
Right
Caster (degrees)
1.5
2
Camber (degrees)
0-.250
Toe
.0312 or 1/32" toe in
 
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Pappibri

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I am going to run all of this info past the guys that do the alignments and see what they think.. Thanks for all the input guys...
 

digglesworth

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i had just leveled my 06 and took it to firestone. i got the lifetime alignment package. i set the front at 23.75" and drove it for a day or so. when i got it back, it seemed like it drove good but i measured again and the front was at like 25.5".... Waaaaaaaay to high..... i lowered it back down and i have another appointment at another firestone tomorrow. i will definitely be talking to them and expressing my concerns about messing with my torsion bolts....
 

08H3I5

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So what's the verdict guys? I just leveled my H3 tonight plan to drive it a day or two as is and get it alighted Friday. Any think I need to tell Firestone when I take it in?
 

digglesworth

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My truck is at firestone for the 4th time in 5 weeks.... Everytime I take it in, I get it back way too high.... Im making sure they call me before they start and I'm gonna tell them exactly what needs to be done... We'll see if they get it right this time.....
 

Pappibri

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I have to find the specs that I had them set it at. Another member put me up on a couple of sites that sell leveling kits that had the specs to set the alignment at with it riding at 23 1/4. I will post them tonight when I get home...
 

digglesworth

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Just talked to the guy at firestone.... He said he set everything WITHOUT touching the torsion bolts. He said if anything affected the ride height, it was adjusting something at the wheel. It was pretty close cause I've had it in there so many times so the toe was out and it had 1degree of positive camber.... Would adjusting anything at the wheels change ride height? I'm really hoping everything is good this time.....
 

Xlr8n

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Sounds like you need a new guy to do the alignment. They should get it in spec with no issues. Him raising the ride height nearly 2 inches requires some serious wrenching.

I had mine done yesterday and the toe was out a bit, but the adjustment only changed my ride height 1/8" of an inch. And that may have simply been settling.
 
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digglesworth

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I think they got it figured out.... After a little explaining.... He did tell me the guy that originally did the alignment, did crank on the torsion bolts.... That guy wasn't there today... Lol. It didn't cost me any more money since I got the lifetime package. Just a bit of a pain runnin it up there several times.
 
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