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Calling All H4O'ers with H3's and Duratrac's!

H32NV

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Golden, CO
Time has been ticking on me needing to replace my tires, I have the 315-75-16 Wrangler Duratrac's(load range E) mounted on the Hutchinson H3 beadlocks. Ive finally got a free weekend coming up to do it, so I'm putting in my order today on a new set of shoes. Discount or any other tire shops wont touch the beadlocks, so it'll be a garage job as it was when I originally got them. None of this is the point of this post, the point is that I'm not sure that I'm entirely satisfied with the Duratrac's and am wondering if I'm missing something?

Firstly, let me say that Ive had great traction in the snow, which is a must for me as an avid skier and sometimes steers me away from a lot of other tires for fear that they arent that good in the snow. Ive heard bad things about the KM2's in the snow, so that strikes them off the list for me. Also, these tires lasted 70k, great lifetime - I kept on top of my alignments when I noticed it out of whack, the fronts are worn more the rears, but its time to replace them now. There's tons of grip off-road on most obstacles, and I havent had any sidewall punctures. I really wanted to like these tires more than I actually do - they have a lot of great selling points that attracted me to them in the first place.

The problem I am having is with stability on dirt roads, like wash roads, and especially over washboards. The rear end seems to kick-out and oversteer on a whim, on its own, and its very unstable. Ive had some suspension work done that helped a little, and also have played with the tire pressures thinking that this was my main cause of squirrlyness. Ive had my Bilsteins re-valved twice to try to correct the issue. My last guess is that its actually the tread pattern or some problem with a flexy sidewall.

A while ago, there used to be a friend on HXC that had a white H3 from Louisiana. His name was Ernie. He has since moved on and sold the truck and now has a sierra, but I remember taking him on some backroads near Aspen, CO on a camping trip to my family land, and his H3 was built much the same as mine. He wasnt on beadlocks, but I believe he had the standard valved bilsteins, BFG AT 35's, and a roof rack(CG was the same), and on dirt roads his truck drove like a Formula One car compared to mine. It was Night and Day. There was absolutely zero squirrley rear end problems, and he doesnt mess with his pressures or even get that sophisticated.

Has anyone else had a bit of a loose rear end with the Duratrac's??

Looking for opinions so that I make the right choice on my next set of tires...
 
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06 H3

a.k.a. "The Jackal"
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Meridian, ID
I have the same complaints as you. Snow and even rocks they would grip and go. On dirt hillclimbs I struggle and spin when I shouldn't. I need new tires too so im interested to see what everyone says. I love my duratracs unless im on dirt climbs. Rocks, snow and mud I've been very pleased

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elripster

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San Diego
This could be caused by the extra unsprung mass of the Duratracs. If your beadlocks are a lot heavier than stock rims they will add to the unsprung mass. Keeping tires in contact with washboard means either the tire needs to move up/down very quickly (can't do that with a massive tire/rim), or the tire needs to not move (air down more). Of course airing down more means more side wall flex so you might not get that stable feeling you are looking for. Tradesoffs, you know how it goes, no one tire is good at everything.

Frank
 

H3slate

Brush raked
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Tualatin, Oregon
I have had good traction with the duratracs in dirt and rocks. Lately I have noticed a tracking problem with the front tires. I have had a couple of alignments and still the same feeling. On uneven pavement the steering wheel will pull strongly to one side. Even on the highway there is a little bit of side to side movement of the front end.



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nmocean

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wv
I have had four wheel drives forever I grew up with them and my dad has tried all kinds of different tires. He keeps going back to BFG's AT and those are the only tires I have run. Several of my trucks came with Goodyear's, AT, AT-S, I took them off as soon as the snow flies and put on the BFG's. My H3 I just bought has brand new Yokohoma's on it, it is ok so far but I am ready next winter to buy BFG's. They are the best all around tire.
 

sinstr

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south fla
I liked my Duratracks. I didnt have any problems on dirt roads (washboard). Rain and rocks they did great. Pavement the truck felt stable at high speeds. Id get another set if my truck was my DD.
 

H32NV

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Golden, CO
how many miles did you get out of the coopers? F5's didnt last long at all, although I believe he did like everything else about them. If I remember right he got 22k or so and they were toast
 

HUMMER INVESTMENTS

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Black Hawk, SD
how many miles did you get out of the coopers? F5's didnt last long at all, although I believe he did like everything else about them. If I remember right he got 22k or so and they were toast

I've had my Coopers for almost 20K miles and they are probably have 60-70% of tread left. I know John Chastan with his H2 got around 50K with them.
 

Happy Hummer

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Wisconsin
Ive run GY gsa's....suck
Ive run GY that came on h3....kinda ok
Ive run GY Wrangler wally special....awsome
Ive run Interco tsl....freakn sweet
Ive looked at wallyworld GY Authority
chris
 

H32NV

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Golden, CO
Thanks for the responses guys! Can anyone speak to the traction of the BFG AT's on slick rock in places like Moab? I think Alex is on them...
 

Pappibri

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Cohoctah, MI
I have Duratracs on my H3 and my Sport Trac.. I do not get the same feeling as you.. Mine are pretty stable over the washboards also... Snow, mud, sand, and low tire noise, cant ask for much more than that. I love them and will stick with them.. I do not have beadlocks on either truck though....
 

HUMMER INVESTMENTS

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Thanks for the responses guys! Can anyone speak to the traction of the BFG AT's on slick rock in places like Moab? I think Alex is on them...

The only A/T I've been on is the Yakoma Geolander A/T, and so far its actually pretty good, with lots of tread on it. So far though it hasnt been to Moab.
 

Portager

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I have the Cooper STT on Hutchinson beadlocks and I like them a lot. I had 33" 305/70R16 BFG KM2 before and I wanted something a little quieter. The Coopers are quieter and the traction seems just as good on dry pavement and trails. I've never hd them in snow. I decided to go with the Cooper STT because Hunner had them on the Hutchinson’s and liked them. Can't tell about wear yet. I only have a about 10,000 miles on them so far. The only time my trucks rear end gets squirrely is when I break the rear anti-sway bar linkage.

If you’re going to switch tires check and see if the new ones are in the same bead thickness range so you don’t need to replace the rubber cylinder inside.
 

Flash

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Michigan
I've run my 33" Duratracs for 30,000+ miles so far. At least half tread left. Truly no complaints. The Fox reserve resevoir shocks stick the tires to the ground like glue. Washboards are nearly like driving on pavement - just slower. It originally was a toss up between the Duratracs and the MT MTZ's. I still like the MTZ's and may consider them again - but the snow traction is so good with the Duratracs that I'll likely stay with them. The rim guard of the Duratracs is a plus for me as well. For me the ability to do a thousand mile road trip on the expressway at 70/75 and then use that same tire to climb Marblehead on Drummond Island or ford Conner's Hole - and take on any winter blizzard Michigan puts out, is a pretty good tire.
 
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