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HUNNER EXtreme SKIDS

Hunner

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Looks like about USPS $117.25 to $120 depending on packing and added weight to the guesstimate of 25+ pounds. They offer a different box than the flat rate and that will allow more stuffing to keep the skids from destroying the box! I have to fill out a customs ticket.
I will let you know when I have some to ship over.
 

Hunner

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There is still time to get in on this batch if anyone wants to have these.
The latest is that I should have a final sample Monday and then place the order.
Looks like we are going to up the brackets to 1/4" material instead of 3/16 just to upgrade them some.
Thanks for those that have paid.
 

Bigunit

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How much for a set of front skidz only & I'll send you the $ right away. Thank you.

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Hunner

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Both of you can get in. I went over yesterday and took a 36 x 48 sheet of 1/4 steel to the place that is going to make these. They don't keep much flat sheet material for what they mostly do, railings and stairs. That piece was $110!! They had not done the last changes and given me a test set so I asked how I could help. Turns out the metal place the can buy small quantities from is close by my place so I saved them the trip.
They will buy full sheets and have it delivered when they start on these. They weigh 328lbs.
I know changing fabricators has taken some time but these guys are good when they get going. They have so much work they have hired two people since I started trying to get some skids.
I'm going back today and see what they did.
It's going to happen!
 

Hunner

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Monday Oct 1, I went to the shop, they had the material on the table of the Torchmate and started cutting. They have been working this thing for weeks doing other things. It got part of a set cut and a microswitch on the gantry was intermittently failing to stop on one axis of the travel. They are going to try to finish me one set and send the controller off FEDX for a 24 hour turn around to get it repaired. I think I could have fixed that with a switch from a local electronics supplier but they did not want to chance it.
I am now more determined than ever to complete these. The only other place that is slow wants $400 more for 20 sets and I just don't want to take a chance starting over, again!!
So have faith in Hunner to giterdun!
 

Hunner

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ALMOST DONE!
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I finally picked up a tweaked set of skids today. They need one more adjustment that is in assembly to clear inside the OEM spring plate. I got the potentiometer cleaned up and tightened up for them on the gantry control and hope it will hold until these are cut. I think I can line them out on that in the morning. They are holding the torch table in que to cut these since it is now set for these before they send off the control head for repair.
I can see some edge difference in torch and laser cutting but nothing too bad. They grind the edges a bit and I will give them a sweep with the media blast but not a fine finish. They should hold paint well that way and then we will go out and scrape them on rocks.
While we were retooling for this type of cutting I went ahead and made the bend further back so the Bilstein or any shock with larger than OEM shock eyes should fit.
We decided to make the brackets out of 1/4 as well so we can also use the same sheet material.
That beefed them up so we decided to leave out the gusset since the brackets are captive in the OEM spring plate and are now stronger. That shaves off some labor not cutting those tiny rectangles and welding them in. That sometimes pulled them out of alignment. I was concerned the torch could not cut them accurate either. I keep tweaking until we got as close to the shock as I think we can go with slight variables in assembly and not have interference. So, yea you lose 1/4 inch clearance, maybe a fuzz more with the trade off being your ENTIRE lower shock mount end and bolt are protected, and you don't lose any valuable shock travel. No blunt edges to hang up.
I checked with several of my automotive professional friends that do a lot of this sort of thing all feel like they are even stronger than before. Hefty burned in welds also attach them with the indexed slot and welded back side like before.
If you break one and survive whatever did that let me know, I will keep some spares.
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Since I have had mine apart many times I decided this might be time to figure out some new u'bolts I could have made.
The theory is, high torque tightening will stretch the threads. I have always used thread locker and have not had a problem.
But, just to make them available I am working on a price that is reasonable. I don't know yet what a dealer wants.
The OEM are 14mm. Locally at the old established spring shop I have used, makes them to order. They have them in SAE sizes so a I tried a larger 9/16 with the thick hardened washers and tall nuts. They fit thru the OEM plate and we allowed a bit larger hole just in case in the skid brackets.
I got one of mine on that way and will install the other with OEM u'bolts just to make sure there is no issue since we made the brackets 1/4 inch instead of 3/16. I had it figured to work.
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OEM on the left. My new ones on the right.
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So if any of those patient paid up order people have any problem with any of that let me know.
I hope they get on cutting these out Wednesday and start welding.
Thank you for yer support!
The design team at Hunner EXtreme (all one of me)
 
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Hunner

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Once again I'm double checking my list against the PayPal emails. I'm having some problems cross referencing forum names to emails on that. I have all the Paypal emails but some don't have the forum name to check off just so I know I got everybody by forum name.
Let me know if you are on this list and if not and you have paid pm me your real name so I can match them up.
If anyone else wants in please let me know so I can bump the order while they are cutting.
Thanks

PAID
ED's06H3
58Bisc
H3Hrly
LChase
AlphaofJonesy
Hellomynameis
Skeptic

NOT paid but asked to be on the list
Falcon but waiting on me to get shipping price (he is in a safe location, or in a Galaxy far far away........
Mustanggirl??
Big Unit fronts only?
 
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Schwarttzy

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Hey All I have my Hunner Skids for sale don't need them since I made my own thing, powder coated black in Marengo, IL I need cash so offer me a decent price.
 

skeptic

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Hey All I have my Hunner Skids for sale don't need them since I made my own thing, powder coated black in Marengo, IL I need cash so offer me a decent price.
Not to be too nitpicky, but I think this should have been a new thread, not in Hunners..

Hunner - I'm not on your paid list, I don't think you have my screen name/real name matched. :) PM'd you.
 

Schwarttzy

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Not to be too nitpicky, but I think this should have been a new thread, not in Hunners..

O I don't know, seems like a great place. I know if someone had one of my parts I would definitely encourage it... I'm kinda of disappointed by that, makes it feel like it's about greed to me and not us trying to push ourselves and our rigs further in the sport of off-road.
 

Hunner

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Thanks for your input guys.
I actually think there is always room for new ideas for those wanting a different approach. Some may want a bit more clearance rather than protection and shock travel my skids provide for the type of wheeling they do.
I think it speaks well of an aftermarket sacrificial component that protects OEM parts and holds up well enough to be re-used by another user.
Mod on!

I spent the day across the river tweaking the file on the 1/4 inch brackets. I found that we could shorten it 1/8 inch more and had to allow for the radius in the OEM bracket in the lower left in the picture. If they get that cut and welded tomorrow we are about ready to push the repeat button.
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Besides that we programmed to test cut a Hunner beadlock ring to test.
I also had a design bent for Steelcraft brush guard support brace out of heavier material and more room around the bracket holes. One of mine broke so I will get some of these made.
We also loaded up the plan for some over the spare racks and may get that done at some point.
As usual I have to work this in around their real business but so far they are very cooperative and patient.
 
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Hunner

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Come to think of it I actually have a set of used skids I took off the Alpha just now that have been on there for awhile. I never got myself a set out of the last batch with the bend further back to clear the bigger eye on the Bilstein. I just lightly media blasted them to remove any loose paint and some light rust where they had scraped on Utah and 9 other states. No deep gouges.
These can work with the Bilstein but in an effort to reduce clearance the skids were tucked up close to OEM shocks. This design ended up touching the larger eye since those shocks were not available before, I was not aware of the larger eye.
(The last batch were modded and this new batch coming has that bend as well.)
These used ones of course work with the OEM or any replacement shock with a similar size lower eye. Like a Monroe.
contact me if interested.
A fresh coat of paint and these would be good to go, they are experienced!
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Hunner

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New tweaked skid today,
"Plasma Cam" is the brand of this device not Torchmate.
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This thing is older than me! But it can deliver some force.
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This guy has hands of steel I guess, he does not flinch.
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Waiting on paint to dry................................
 
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Hunner

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Paints dry!
This time we have the brackets so that the skid is sucked up all the way to the OEM plate with the Bilsteins. So there is only 1/4 inch of steel below that plate. Placement of the lower hook in the opening in this picture will allow you to remove it after attaching the skid. The angle here looks like the skid is touching the overload spring but there is 1/2 inch or more as shown on level with the skid.
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I kept tweaking until now the skid just barely touches the rubber on the shock, not enough to even compress it any. I better stop there and try to keep consistency in the mounting of the bracket. There could be some slight variations after welding but the metal should not rub.
With people concerned about loosing clearance I wanted to make these as close as possible and still provide the protection this design offers.
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A little tight under there to get my camera in the right place. This one is installed with the upsize 1/4 inch brackets and OEM spring hangers and washers and nuts that come with them. There are 3 or more threads showing. I used threadlocker and will run these this way to see if there is any problem. I used an impact which is the best method to get the plate up tight.
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After doing this about 8 times in as many days I started using a ratchet strap to hold things together. The Bilstein want to force the OEM plate down and is more than I can hold or push up, line things up start the hangers thru the holes and start washers and nuts all at the same time!!!

These fit closer than I ever had them before. If anyone has problems let me know. I will make it right if you honestly cannot fit them. It takes patience and perseverance. I will try a couple of samples from the production run as well as make sure they make a jig for welding. I will probably remove both my spring plates and take them back up there when they begin welding and build the jig to fit.
This has been a hassle and I hope these will provide an even stronger mounting and better closer fit with OEM shock replacement or equivalent and Bilsteins.
The Hunner

I hope to have them start cutting next week.
 
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Hunner

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I have not terminated the fabricator yet but I'm getting close! I went there yesterday and at risk of him running me off explained I had to either get these made or terminate the project with him. He again showed me the problem that has re-occurred with his plasma torch. He said he hoped to have me some today. I'm not holding my breath but will go over there this afternoon.
I could feel the tension that it was about time someone started asking. This has been the most frustrating effort I have made in a long time where I was not able to control the outcome.
I apologize for the delay as it was so nice before to get them in a reasonable amount of time. I don't want to start over with another place if this guy can get it together.
Thanks for your patience.
 
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ALPHA of JONESY

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No problem, I am amazed on how much of a difficult time you are having finding a reliable, dependable fab shop in your area. Too bad you you are not in Colorado, I have an uncle with a nice fab shop here that could help you out. Thanks for the update and hopefully it didn't seem like I was bugging you about the skids.
 

Hunner

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After this I may explore some offers from forum members that mentioned they thought they could have them made. I'm just concerned that it would take some time for somebody to figure this out and stay on top of the production so they do not get altered. Price of course becomes involved and more shipping and several other bothers. I will try Monday to get some more answers. This has held me back for months from the freedom to travel and I'm getting torqued.
 

Hunner

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The saga continues. After making a round trip across the river twice a week for the last three weeks at about 60 miles round trip, this last place, today when I went over to tell them I had to have the estimate today and finalize the order shot me a price of $100 each for the rear skids. I told them politely while holding back my anger that price was so far out of range I would have to pass. They were two and a half times what I had other quotes for and strung me along for three weeks and had them all layed out in the software.
Crap, so I went to the really large fabricator, who I had talked with three months ago and had told them it would be awhile because I was pre-selling them so I could afford as many as possible to make it worth their effort. They got out the file and I showed them and left the OEM springplate/shock mount for each side and asked them to tweak the file to minimum clearance under that. They were very attentive and we had a good discussion. The order is now placed with them. I asked to please try to give me an estimate of time. That was sort of vague but expected with the Holiday at hand but asked them to please keep me in the loop and give me an update as to the production date next week.
These will cost me $20 more per set but I am absorbing that for having taken so long to get these made. So the paid price is still the same including shipping.
So have faith, Hunner WILL get these done for you guys that had faith in me and have ordered them. The money is still sitting in PayPal and will until I pay out for the product.
Contact me with any concerns you have.
Again I apologize for the delay but it has not been because I have not stayed on this.
 
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