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f5moab

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IF they get a new job!:giggle: And if they do get a new job, will it pay as much as their existing job?:no: That's always been one of those brain dead ideas of many union workers I have failed to understand. Yes, find a new job, but it is really best to do that while you are working; especially since the economy sucks and it appears might get worse before better.:roll:

For those of us who actually work, and don't depend on Unions to keep our jobs....a job in hand is better than a chance of a job in a terrible economy.

And if you think that article is all that is written, then no, there is just as much fault to the unions, or should I say the one small union with the large name.

I guess some, like me, will continue to bash unions, while others will continue to stand up and tell the world how great they are.

(I grew up in a union household. my Mother worked for CWA and hated the union, but had no choice in MI, my uncles worked in the car industry as union workers, my grandfather in MI, was actually on the bridge with the Reuthers in 1937(?).) Through the years I have discovered that too many union workers are worthless and using the word "worker" and "union" in the same sentence is an oxymoron. I have also learned that even those that work, don't think for themselves (union says vote for a dog turd and they will turn out and vote for the dog turd); and the they are the biggest group of hypocrites I have ever met. Example, unions are always bashing Walmart; however, I DO NOT know ONE union person who does not shop at Walmart, and I did know a lot of union workers when I worked for GM. And when it came to lay offs or their contracts on moving from plant to plant, they gave no sh*t about their fellow brothers or sisters; they only gave a sh*t about themselves. I had no real problem with that since it is a dog-eat-dog world, but they always walked around raving about brotherhood and sisterhood; hypocrites.

Rant is over....

So, in my opinion, enough said from me. Continue on...I have said all I will on this subject.

Need to go take some photos of the H3 and get them posted....
 

deserth3

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned. The majoity of management in a union shop come from a select few in the union.
Though in many cases they have to give up their "union status" to become management, the union mindset is still there.

Now if the board of directors selects a CEO outsider to come in to "make things better and moderize". The CEO will be fighting an up hill battle. If I found myself in that position I'd tell the board of directorsif they want to keep me around they'd have to give me a major raise too.

It's visious cycle. Same thing happened to Steel in Pennsylvainia back in the 70's (?), and they're still whinning about it.

The unions were a good thing at one time. But now just as F5 said they are doing a great job choking this country.
 
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Kurt

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Damn those baker unions, that $14 an hour twinkee straightener must have been having an affair with the CEO to get him to spend over half a billion dollars on merging with another company.

When the wheels come of the wagon due to mismanagement... we can blame the bakers... BRILLIANT!
 
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