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Hunner

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I have a Nikon Fm, 2 Nikon FE's, and a pristine Nikon F3 with motor drive and some lenses if we are having an old time pissing contest! lol
Tried to sell the F3 on Nikonians and did not get a single hit.
I sold my Mamiya 6x7 and two Mamiya 645's.
I found some 15 year old film which probably has lost a bit of ASA rating?
 
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Kyle

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after taking pictures of my friends graduation, i finally have decided its time to upgrade from the d3100 to something with a little more "power" behind it. the d3100 was a great camera for a beginner to learn on, but my photography skills have surpassed the beginner stage and i think a camera upgrade is in order. what would you guys recommend? i want to go with the d800 but im not sure.
 

Hunner

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The 800 is a fine piece of equipment. You need to do some comparisons between that and a D600 and what you like to shoot and how you shoot.
The D600 is a slightly smaller body than my D300 and a D800 but not really an issue. After I used it awhile I don't notice anymore.
There is always the nerds fussing about details and if the D600 is a pro camera or not. Hogwash, on most of that. Get the best lens you can afford and either one of the FX if that is the way you want to go.
The new sensors compared to my D300 are vastly different mostly the lack of noise and any ISO.
In most cases with the life of any piece of electronic equipment I'm not too sure about investing more than the level I am now for awhile in any one body.
I may have mentioned if you get one at the right time you could get two D600 bodies for about the cost of a D800. It has changed some but for what I do that was the option I left open.
I found the D800 not to be as easy to access some functions I use a lot without going into the menu like the D300.
There are also some more functions for the casual user on the D600 but not really something I use much. Like the scene mode for presets.
I liked the two user programmable selections on the dial so I can set up what I want. I seem to favor Fstop priority for what ever type of shooting I am doing while watching the shutter speed depending on the subjects.

I shoot lots of different venues and subjects.
This was about 7 pm late fading shadowy lighting. I shot a series of her blowing bubbles and wanted to get the reflections in the bubbles of some patio lights.
Surprise when I caught this one. On the original full frame image you can see her eye and it's in focus thru the bubble!

At some point many years ago I gave up the night scene playing drums and passed them on to my brother in law who has come a long way. He sat in with this group before his band played.
This was the D600 with a 50mm 1.8 shot at max ISO of an amazing value of 25,600 (no flash) with what I consider "usable" or acceptable noise considering wanting to preserve the night scene appearance and lighting.
The only overhead lighting were from two canned ceiling lights dimmed way down and exterior lights and beer signs.
By the way the kid on the left of his Dad, both playing guitar, is only 11 and can tear up jazz and blues and Jimmy Hendrix songs!!!!!
Bro in law is the one in the middle biting his Zildjian cymbal, or so it appears.

This is my favorite model from my Daughters dance studio recital.
I shot this from the back of a 1000 seat auditorium with the D600. This was the first year in about 28 that the technology finally allowed this level of image that was not too grainy or noisy. Yeah it might be a bit soft and maybe some noise, which could be fixed in post, but this is with a 400mm lens, handheld with VR on, 1/200s F5.6 ISO1600 tungsten white balance to adapt for the stage lighting.
Parents bought "lots" shot this way as never before.
 
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owlxxx

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after taking pictures of my friends graduation, i finally have decided its time to upgrade from the d3100 to something with a little more "power" behind it. the d3100 was a great camera for a beginner to learn on, but my photography skills have surpassed the beginner stage and i think a camera upgrade is in order. what would you guys recommend? i want to go with the d800 but im not sure.
Well, you can upgrade to a D7100. I have the D7000 and it does pretty damn good. Upgrading to FX like a D800 would require you to buy FX lenses to get the most out of the camera and you would have to be able to manage those huge files. I was personally thinking of going up to a D600 but I've let photography take a back seat to getting the Hummer dialed in. www.500px.com/alancarrillo1 has some of my stuff I was able to do with my D7000 and regular ole' lenses. Actually I did rent the 24-70mm 2.8 for the weddings I did. Just my opinion but if you just like to shoot for fun and personal stuff, I'd save some money and get a D600 and top quality glass.
 

Hunner

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The D600 has a DX mode and recognizes some of those lenses, but only some are usable depending on the mm.
It does pre-crop some so reduces your pixel numbers.

However, being one to test the norm, I found that my DX 12-24 simply becomes a 16-24 without any vignetting. It was my favorite lens for out west and landscapes. I don't use DX mode so I get the full pixel count.
So far on the FX around 16mm is an impressive wide angle and this is a sharp lens.
My 17-55 DX won't work at any mm. It won't fill the frame much.
16-85 won't work either.

In my case I have other DX cameras and will now carry the D300 as a backup so still have a use for those sweet lenses.

I got the D600 with the 24-85 and despite it being sold with the body some would call it a "kit" lens that does not by any means diminish the resolution and quality just as buying it in a gold box does not make it any better. One has to shoot and compare to see the quality, not read specs and reviews.

Another thing I tried is using my 70-200 and 80-400 in DX mode to get a bit more reach, 1.5x which I had on the D300. Then of course you could also crop in edit and the new sensors with very little noise will allow that and still be usable.

I like to shoot for fun and personal stuff but have been making a living for 50+ years in photography and consider the D600 a fully capable computer with a lens on the front. It is a step beyond the other three Nikon digital's I have had.
I played with a 14-24 but if you have any straight lines at the edges it can tilt them, at 14mm, but can be worked around. There are now options to hang a filter in front of it also. $2000

I sort of think maybe a 16-35 would be a nice choice. You can use filters on it. $1200

Some great new options now and I would venture to say, the detail exceeds the finest grain film there was with this last sensor.
I still hang on to my F3 for messing with.

I shoot Jpeg large, fine for most of my stuff. A box with an Intel I-5 handles the files rather quickly.
RAW of course sucks some power. I do use that on some of more more demanding work I do.

Let's keep this going and share ideas and offroad images of our vehicles or places they got us to.
 
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Kyle

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okay, thanks for all your input guys, i think i will get both, then use both of them and compare them and take back the one i dont like!
 

Kyle

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i got a couple shots too. this was the best one. im going to try again tonight but with my 300mm lens and see how it goes. DSC_0136.jpg
 

Hunner

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WOW great stuff! You have come along way since the warehouse tests. ( and braver ) lol
Someday I gotta move into that. Local guy here has one and has been teaching me some flying moves.

Were you flying it from inside your vehicle while moving on some of those?
 

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WOW great stuff! You have come along way since the warehouse tests. ( and braver ) lol
Someday I gotta move into that. Local guy here has one and has been teaching me some flying moves.

Were you flying it from inside your vehicle while moving on some of those?
Thanks Hunner. I installed a brushless gimbal and flew from outside and without FPV. There was more useless footage vs. usable, but I managed. Still working out the gimbal and rolling shutter issues.
 

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getting FPV can be expensive depending on the setup but it seems like a small price to pay after seeing some videos of where people make some FPV Phantoms. that's something I really wanna do is to get a DJI Phantom and after getting used to it, save up for a FPV setup but that's all wishes and not in my future at the moment.
 

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Bought a GoPro 3 yesterday. Please tell me this thing gets easier to use!

I'm going to fart around with it for the next couple weeks and do some net-wheeling to see how I like it.
 

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But I still screw up all the time. One spent five minutes holding it, thinking I was shooting video, and I all did was take a single still picture
 

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True...its so freakin small that my 40-something eyes can't see the display! I bought some optional stuff too. The back-pack LCD (so it has a viewfinder...something I cannot believe it doesn't have for $400). I also got a standard 1/4"-20 photography mount for it (equally un-believable that this is not included). I went into the store wanting a Contour, as I'm convinced its a better design...and even more convinced after a day of using the GoPro! However, the support and aftermarket dohinkys for the GoPro are unparalleled, so thats what got the sale.
 

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Do you guys have iPhones or iPads. Get the go pro app and connect the go pro to it. Makes changing the settings a snap.

Plus the new update that just came out has some wicked preview options without even transferring the data onto your phone physically (think it uses Bluetooth or wi-fi to transfer the info)
 

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Finally put the Quad Heli to good use. Sorry no hummers but worth the time to watch.
[video=youtube_share;r6CSqU7r3JM]http://youtu.be/r6CSqU7r3JM[/video]
This video is beyond cool to me. Watched it so many times, tossed it up on Facebook, showed it to all the guys at work who all thought it was bad@ss! Very well done man!
 

Hunner

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Have not fully finished the research and decided for sure on a quadcopter but think I want to see more reviews when the one I am thinking about comes more available.
Walkera QRX350 might be it if I can pinpoint it has OIC. (I'm not so sure now it does.) The Blade version does. For those that don't know it is operator relative so even if it is aiming side ways the controls left and right are related to the operators position. Good for when I can't quite see which way it is aiming and have to experiment with direction.

Did notice the price drop on the GoPro Black edition and grabbed the last one at Best Buy here in the sticks.
I got it set up tonight with my I-pad in the H3 using wi-fi. There is about a 2 second delay in reality but I'm that far behind most of the time anyway!
I got the back view thingy and a roll bar mount and tripod mount.
They have a floatey back I better get and some tethers for the sailboat. I always wanted to mount a camera up the mast. I can trigger it with the wi-fi remote or phone or I-pad.
I will figure out how to post some images and video after my eyes rest.
4 Speed I went to the online instructions and blew them up! lol
 
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Hunner

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I have done lots of searching and figuring out how to set up my GoPro for different applications.
Just a brief run down of what I have found.

On the GoPro if you get the app you can use your phone or ipad to monitor what it is doing.
There is a 2 second delay so it messes with your mind if you are driving and looking at it! lol
I also got the extended battery and a floaty for using it on the boat up the mast and a mess of other options.

One thing I rigged up is a wire fishing leader, snip off the swivel at one end and thread the loop thru the door metal bar on the housing and wrap around your brush guard and fasten with the snap clip. (just in case)

There are also some tether mounting plates I think I will get that are secured to the lens mount.
http://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-LANY...665626&sr=8-129&keywords=gopro+aluminum+mount
Edit on this. Some caused a crack in the lens!!! I think I will wait on this.

There are also some better mounts for what we do. I'm not sure how long that "quick release" plastic bracket will last in the sun and taking shock.
Of course the housing could fail at the connection and I'm going to examine that often.

Did notice a rumble I guess harmonic vibration from the mount and the engine. I may try a remote mic at some point but not sure how to seal the connection up.
 
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