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R.I.P. Chris Kyle, U.S. Navy SEAL Retired

3Hummers

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James I know they hate everything about me; political outlook, independence, vehicles, firearms, success, hobbies ( hunting, fishing, camping, wheeling, shooting ). I could change 90% of everything about me and they would still hate me for the 10% that didn't change so F%*k them. If the world went to $hit they would all cease to exist within weeks and I would be around for the long haul. Maybe that asteroid strike isn't such a bad thing after all. :)
 

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Rose my glass a few minutes ago with tens of thousands of others across the country to honor and remember Chris Kyle.

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James I know they hate everything about me; political outlook, independence, vehicles, firearms, success, hobbies ( hunting, fishing, camping, wheeling, shooting ). I could change 90% of everything about me and they would still hate me for the 10% that didn't change so F%*k them. If the world went to $hit they would all cease to exist within weeks and I would be around for the long haul. Maybe that asteroid strike isn't such a bad thing after all. :)

I'm right there will you. :thumbs:
 

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Not just the libs who hate people like Kyle....
"Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense" (Ron Paul)
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/04/Ron-Paul-Slams-Dead-U-S-Sniper-Chris-Kyle

As for the draft....all kids, male and female, should be drafted at the age of 18 or when graduated from high school, which ever comes last. I never felt this way until the past few years. Now I look around and I see kids who are basically abandoned by their families and the spend too much time on the streets getting into trouble, or kids who are spoiled rotten by well to do parents. They all need to grow up. There are some out there who are taught responsibility by their parents, but that seems to be far and few between.
 

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As for a draft... I don't know. Our society starts screwing up kids at a young age in school. Now they are parents and their kids are like F5 says. I don't think it should be the militaries job to straighten them out.
But I think 3hummers has it right. If things go to hell they are cannon fodder. They don't realize it and don't have the tools to be otherwise.
 
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I do believe that Obama will find a way to be president in 2016. There is no way this country can survive 12 years of this idiot.


Rest assured my friend, that will NEVER happen..we say we have the Constitution backing us always..Thank God that there is also a feature of the Constitution that Prohibits such an atrocity..:deal:

Maybe 2020, (God forbid) but definitely not a third consecutive term..Never has happened, Never will.
 

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Rest assured my friend, that will NEVER happen..we say we have the Constitution backing us always..Thank God that there is also a feature of the Constitution that Prohibits such an atrocity..:deal:

Maybe 2020, (God forbid) but definitely not a third consecutive term..Never has happened, Never will.
/Franklin D. Roosevelt's Third Term

A couple of Dems have already floated the idea of repealing the 22nd Amendment (2-term limits).
 

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I would put nothing past these idiots but hopefully the 22nd is the firewall that prevents us from ever having another FDR.( whom I consider to be one of the worst Presidents ever )
 

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Rest assured my friend, that will NEVER happen..we say we have the Constitution backing us always..Thank God that there is also a feature of the Constitution that Prohibits such an atrocity..:deal:

Maybe 2020, (God forbid) but definitely not a third consecutive term..Never has happened, Never will.

The 22nd Amendment states: "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.".

Note the use of the word "elected". Clearly, no person who has been elected for two terms, nor any person who has served more than two years as successor to another President and has been elected for an additional term, may be ELECTED to the office of President. It would seem from this wording that the ineligible individual could run for and be elected to the Vice Presidental office as many times as they choose, which would make them first in line of succession should the elected president die or resign. This has been proposed as a way of skirting the 22nd Amendment. However, the 12th Amendment states "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.". There has never been a court ruling, but there are two thoughts on this. One says that because a 2 term former president is ineligible to be elected under the 22nd Amendment, that he/she is thus ineligible to become VP under the 12th Amendment. Another says that the 12th Amendment refers to "fitness" to become President, i.e. nation of birth, age, etc., but does not disqualify someone who has been "elected" president twice. In my opinion, the 22nd Amendment applies to the 12th Amendment since the 12th deals with procedures to ELECT the President and Vice President, and the 22nd clearly states "No person shall be ELECTED...."

Now, the 22nd and 12th Amendment only apply to the office of President and Vice President. Beyond that, it is only governed by Article 2, section 1. Thus, a person in the line of succession who is not eligible to HOLD the office of president cannot succeed to the office of President. That person would be skipped over to the next eligible person in the line of succession. However, there is nothing to indicate that the 22nd Amendment would make a person ineligible to HOLD the office of President when the office is achieved by succession rather than election. So, in theory a person who has been elected to 2 terms as President and who subsequently becomes elected to the House and holds the position of Speaker of the House COULD still become president again if the President and Vice President both died or were otherwise removed from office. All in all, a VERY unlikely set of circumstances. Even then, if challenged in the SCOTUS it could always be ruled that the former 2 term President is ineligible to HOLD the office due to the 22nd Amendment. Since it has never come up, there is no precedent. If I were ruling on it, I would say the spirit of the relevant amendments is to prevent an individual from serving more than 2 terms, PERIOD, regardless of how they achieve the office. In other words, eligibility to be ELECTED president and eligibility to HOLD the office of President would mean the same thing.

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The biggest problem is that Obama don't even need to be elected for the 3rd time. To stay in power all what will need to be done is to create another major attack on the us soil(something bigger then 9-11), blame it on the terrorist inside the country, declare the martial law, deem the country as unable to have a fair election and boom... Next thing is to disband the congress and declare yourself as a supreme martial ruler(and to make it sound good) until all civil unrest will come down and country will be able to come back to old constitutional ways(wich will never happen).
 

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The biggest problem is that Obama don't even need to be elected for the 3rd time. To stay in power all what will need to be done is to create another major attack on the us soil(something bigger then 9-11), blame it on the terrorist inside the country, declare the martial law, deem the country as unable to have a fair election and boom... Next thing is to disband the congress and declare yourself as a supreme martial ruler(and to make it sound good) until all civil unrest will come down and country will be able to come back to old constitutional ways(wich will never happen).
You'd get about halfway through that list before current and retired military would get REALLY itchy fingers.
 

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You'd get about halfway through that list before current and retired military would get REALLY itchy fingers.

Agree. And allot of people already have very itchy fingers. But to protect them self from fingers government have to do few other steps. Make guns illegal to own(start from more military oriented and then put more and more bans until take it all away like it happened in England), being able to arrest anyone without due process and get ride of them (NDAA, FEMA camps), control the media for mass brainwashing, cut as much communication between people with itchy fingers (SOPA,CISPA,PIPA,ACTA,TPP,ITU,TAFTA)

Easy speaking, when the guns going to go, all of the people with itchy fingers and loud mouth will be labeled as terrorist and will be ride of.
 
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