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Steering Rack Comprison

backcountryislife

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So I take it none of these mounts have been around or Hummers long enough to really see any long term effects like wear inside the rack?

Keep in mind the level of isolation on an H3 compared to a sports car is vastly different. If you have to choose though, between slow wear and a quick snap... I'll take the wear, but in the discussions I've had with guys around here nobody seems concerned about decreasing life span from this perspective on a truck.

Do keep in mind, that if you're solidly clamping the rack though on one side, the float on the other side is only coming into play in terms of flex from the rack itself.
 

silvrzuki77

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I have had my Mayhem Metalworks kit on mine for a month in a half?? Anyways I've put about 1000 mi on road and about 300-400 offroad. Honestly with freeway bumps and potholes I honestly dont feel ANY difference then before. It is more responsive when changing lanes and what not.
 
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PreferredChassisFab

Yosemite Sam
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Just want to put my 2 cents on it... (Hopefully that will not stir up a hornet's nest :fxd:... again...)

Just to note: I have no experience with the H3 steering rack issue and my knowledge is based on my previous mechanical experience.
I see 2 reasons to keep the rack floating. First, as mentioned above, is to reduce the "jaring caused by bumbs in the road" or "isolate the soccer moms delicate hands from feeling vibration through the steering wheel".
The second one is that (and I don't see anyone talking about) is to reduce the fatigue on the internal steering rack components. I've replaced several racks (not on H3) that where destroyed on inside. If the rack is clamped solid then all of road noise fatigue will go directly inside of the steering rack components, resulting in reduced life of the rack.
There is a reason why shock absorbers are created. The worst enemy of ALL OF THE mechanical part is the constant vibration, and that is exactly why all cars (including all of the high-performance sport cars) have suspension and steering shocks and bushings.

Think of it this way: The softer the absorption - the more softer and comfortable and more reliable it gets. The harder the absorption - the more responsive and less reliable it gets... And when someone designing a car they have to balance between this 2... AND, the BALANCE is the key, not all the way one or other. If too soft - it will become like a boat in storm and will make you sick(not comfortable), and if to hard - it will bump like crazy and you will lose all control (not responsive) on high speed or bumpy road(plus you will loose all of your screws in you car and in your brain)
I worked on few race cars for endurance races, and yes, stiff steering rack will give you more feel of the tarmac, but you have to be NUTS not to have any absorption at all. It will not only destroy the the rack very quickly, but also destroy your hands and you will not be able to hold on to steering wheel after several hours.

Then again, I'm talking about race car and not the Hummer. You don't go as fast and large tires do provide some absorption. I guess only time will tell what design was able to balance it out better.

Very well stated!
 

silvrzuki77

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Arthummer. Like you said in your post big tires absorb alot of impact as does the ifs suspension. Now if I through some 24" rims and rubber band tires and turn my bass all the way up, it probally be harsh as heck.
 

Mr_Rich

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I contacted Flaming River a while back about an aftermarket steering rack for an H3. They had nothing. I think an aftermarket upgrade/ replacement is a thought to replace the stock components that some owners have troubles with. Maybe one of our vendors could pursue that angle....
 

backcountryislife

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I contacted Flaming River a while back about an aftermarket steering rack for an H3. They had nothing. I think an aftermarket upgrade/ replacement is a thought to replace the stock components that some owners have troubles with. Maybe one of our vendors could pursue that angle....

A few of us have given this a lot of time & research, and swapping racks is a much bigger step than it sounds. At first I thought it would be pretty easy, perhaps simply swap to a 1500 rack or similar, but after a bunch of folks renewed efforts to try to help me, and others out... we found out why it hadn't been done before.

The rack itself isn't that bad, like PCF & others have said, it's simply very poorly attached. if we can hold the rack (debate on one or both sides aside) firmly, on both axises, I doubt a new rack will be something folks feel we need.
 
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