06 H3
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thanks, I will go look in the garage right now...If not I will call Zach.
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06 H3
a.k.a. "The Jackal"
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Here is the rancho 4in lift w/ 35s next to an XJ with a 3in lift and 31s
06 H3
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not yet 
There is an infomercial about a Brazilian Butt Lift you might watch that for ideas.
Sorry I couldn't resist.:shifty:
I have a friend with an XJ and he kids me about my monster truck H3 and I don't even have a lift!
We wheel quit a bit together and our vehicles like the same trails, in most cases.
We like to guide newbies at Superlift and break them in easy until noon.
Since a lot of them are Jeeps I like to run tailgunner most of the time, so they don't have to follow a Hummer ha ha
You gave me an idea, I think I will shoot a picture of my H3 next to his over at the shop where he works and I moonlight.
Sorry I couldn't resist.:shifty:
I have a friend with an XJ and he kids me about my monster truck H3 and I don't even have a lift!
We wheel quit a bit together and our vehicles like the same trails, in most cases.
We like to guide newbies at Superlift and break them in easy until noon.
Since a lot of them are Jeeps I like to run tailgunner most of the time, so they don't have to follow a Hummer ha ha
You gave me an idea, I think I will shoot a picture of my H3 next to his over at the shop where he works and I moonlight.
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Sierra H3
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FYI, I noticed that ARB sells H3 leaf springs. They just lift 0.75 inch though.
06 H3
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gotta start building my rancho UCP for moab. Is it safe to drive with the reenforcement bars off or am I going to have to park it while I have the bars off...I also will be lengthening them because my crossmember was tweaked back an inch so it was nearly impossible to get on. I may even weld the crossmember bar mounts on the crossmember for added strength...
06 H3
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I think I am going to start a running log of performance and give a review when I get back from Moab...The UCP is built
I need to put on the diff skid and lost the bolts...anyone know the size?
I need to put on the diff skid and lost the bolts...anyone know the size?
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:corn: I hope you make a running log Chris, be sure to share it!
06 H3
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Well I finally have an initial review after logging over 1600 miles in the past week on the trek to moab. As time goes on, I will learn more and will keep you guys posted but heres what I have so far.
First off, I would like to address the concerns. Breakdowns, High COG and the driveshaft.
The driveshaft had lasted the entire trip. with over 1600 miles on it in a week, it gave me NO troubles. I got the new driveshaft from CJ halfway through the week (mailed it to the outpost) in case of a driveshaft issue. Seeing I had none I left it in and it is still intact by the time I got home. I did see some grease leaking when I checked it this morning so I will be taking it out to avoid the chance of it blowing it up and taking out a transmission pan, T case or diff. The new one is stout, it is not maintenance free so if you do go this route remember that. It requires some grease every oil change...to all moab guys, yes it requires the grease gun :finger:
Breakdowns, I did not have a single breakdown. All halfshafts, tie rods, diffs, etc. lasted the entire trip I only dealt with a non rancho related issue. My CEL went on due to a dirty MAF sensor, thats what happens when your in the back of 20 rigs...it gets dusty! Went to the local moab oreillys and picked up MAF sensor cleaner and the CEL went away. As for the suspension and powertrain components all went well. No trailers, parts or tow trucks
High COG. I know some of you were concerned for me. I didnt roll over...lol. That was truly my biggest fear for this lift, the added height. In so cal, my inclinometer was usually maxed out in the 30s for up-down and 20s for side to side. In moab I think I topped out at 42 or 44 in up-down and 30's side to side. While on seven mile rim we hit the crack. Zach attempted it before and and they put him on an angle which didnt lift his tire much so to make things interesting, I provoked it too, Alex put me on a line that would truly test my COG. Tim believes I still had 6-8inches more of lift before I would actually be in danger of a rollover.
Seven Mile Rim
Gold Bar Rim
On-road ride:
I had the deavers deisgned to be ideal with 400lbs in the rear. I carry on a daily basis, 208lbs including the spare up top. While camping gear, food, water and other items added racked up the weight the drive to and from Moab was smooth as can be. I was very pleased with the springs when they have the weight they were designed for. In terms of ride quality I couldnt be any happier for the road trip. Without my gear the ride is good but not nearly as great as it is weighed down. The future of the deavers is undetermined but for now they will be sticking around for a while. Who knows what the future will bring, but as of now for a DD I am happy.
Off road ride:
First off let me say, I am quite happy. There are some things I will tweak but overall the ride for the rancho off road is good. I have tried to build the H3 for all types of terrain, sand, rock crawling, overland, high speed dirt sections etc. I would rather but set up to be decent at everything then excel in one or two areas and suck at the rest.
Rocks: The added clearance was AWESOME! I used to live on my skids, bumpers and sliders. I hit my rockers once the entire trip and that was on moab rim IIRC, I used my T case skid once and my bumpers werent getting a hit nearly as much as other 3's. I used my custom trans UCP a decent amount and have quite a few scrapes on that. One spot where I had put two pieces of tubing near the driveshaft to avoid it from getting hit have some good marks on them. I feel the custom UCP is a MUST if wheeling. I would have hit and possibly taken out the driveshaft without question. My only real complaint is the softness at times...This could be caused from the bumpstops though. As the week went on my suspension settled and was sitting too low, I had my bumpstops smashed on the a arms. I need to crank them up a bit to get it at the right ride height again. If the bounciness on hard braking and climbing continues I will look into some Alpha Tbars or the OME t bars if they still make them.
High speed stuff: This was the other part of terrain I got to experience at moab. Sometimes in sandy washes and gravel roads I really got to open up the very powerful 3.5L. :wink:
I have no complaints here, the rancho front coupled with the deavers it felt like glass going down the roads at higher speeds.
So far so good, I like the rancho kit. The added track width keeps me feeling stable. I went from 5.83in backspacing to 4.08. Not too concerned with wearing out hubs quicker. I did some searching and there are jeep guys running under 4in BS without issues.
Anyone who wants to chime in that rode in, drove or saw in action my 3 feel free to pros and cons. I am open to the positives and negatives.
I really cant wait to start running the same trails in so cal so I can do a comparison from stock to lifted.
First off, I would like to address the concerns. Breakdowns, High COG and the driveshaft.
The driveshaft had lasted the entire trip. with over 1600 miles on it in a week, it gave me NO troubles. I got the new driveshaft from CJ halfway through the week (mailed it to the outpost) in case of a driveshaft issue. Seeing I had none I left it in and it is still intact by the time I got home. I did see some grease leaking when I checked it this morning so I will be taking it out to avoid the chance of it blowing it up and taking out a transmission pan, T case or diff. The new one is stout, it is not maintenance free so if you do go this route remember that. It requires some grease every oil change...to all moab guys, yes it requires the grease gun :finger:
Breakdowns, I did not have a single breakdown. All halfshafts, tie rods, diffs, etc. lasted the entire trip I only dealt with a non rancho related issue. My CEL went on due to a dirty MAF sensor, thats what happens when your in the back of 20 rigs...it gets dusty! Went to the local moab oreillys and picked up MAF sensor cleaner and the CEL went away. As for the suspension and powertrain components all went well. No trailers, parts or tow trucks
High COG. I know some of you were concerned for me. I didnt roll over...lol. That was truly my biggest fear for this lift, the added height. In so cal, my inclinometer was usually maxed out in the 30s for up-down and 20s for side to side. In moab I think I topped out at 42 or 44 in up-down and 30's side to side. While on seven mile rim we hit the crack. Zach attempted it before and and they put him on an angle which didnt lift his tire much so to make things interesting, I provoked it too, Alex put me on a line that would truly test my COG. Tim believes I still had 6-8inches more of lift before I would actually be in danger of a rollover.
Seven Mile Rim
Gold Bar Rim
On-road ride:
I had the deavers deisgned to be ideal with 400lbs in the rear. I carry on a daily basis, 208lbs including the spare up top. While camping gear, food, water and other items added racked up the weight the drive to and from Moab was smooth as can be. I was very pleased with the springs when they have the weight they were designed for. In terms of ride quality I couldnt be any happier for the road trip. Without my gear the ride is good but not nearly as great as it is weighed down. The future of the deavers is undetermined but for now they will be sticking around for a while. Who knows what the future will bring, but as of now for a DD I am happy.
Off road ride:
First off let me say, I am quite happy. There are some things I will tweak but overall the ride for the rancho off road is good. I have tried to build the H3 for all types of terrain, sand, rock crawling, overland, high speed dirt sections etc. I would rather but set up to be decent at everything then excel in one or two areas and suck at the rest.
Rocks: The added clearance was AWESOME! I used to live on my skids, bumpers and sliders. I hit my rockers once the entire trip and that was on moab rim IIRC, I used my T case skid once and my bumpers werent getting a hit nearly as much as other 3's. I used my custom trans UCP a decent amount and have quite a few scrapes on that. One spot where I had put two pieces of tubing near the driveshaft to avoid it from getting hit have some good marks on them. I feel the custom UCP is a MUST if wheeling. I would have hit and possibly taken out the driveshaft without question. My only real complaint is the softness at times...This could be caused from the bumpstops though. As the week went on my suspension settled and was sitting too low, I had my bumpstops smashed on the a arms. I need to crank them up a bit to get it at the right ride height again. If the bounciness on hard braking and climbing continues I will look into some Alpha Tbars or the OME t bars if they still make them.
High speed stuff: This was the other part of terrain I got to experience at moab. Sometimes in sandy washes and gravel roads I really got to open up the very powerful 3.5L. :wink:
I have no complaints here, the rancho front coupled with the deavers it felt like glass going down the roads at higher speeds.
So far so good, I like the rancho kit. The added track width keeps me feeling stable. I went from 5.83in backspacing to 4.08. Not too concerned with wearing out hubs quicker. I did some searching and there are jeep guys running under 4in BS without issues.
Anyone who wants to chime in that rode in, drove or saw in action my 3 feel free to pros and cons. I am open to the positives and negatives.
I really cant wait to start running the same trails in so cal so I can do a comparison from stock to lifted.
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custom fox shocks...The factory fox replacements wont work the lift. I have talked with Tim @ Expedition Hardware and told me he can get custom size shocks from most of the brands out there.
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Next time we are out there in moab, I'm sure we will be a couple more trucks out there:thumbs: I do wanna see how our H3 would handle moab.
Chris, I have to let you know that because of you and seeing how good your Rancho lift did in Moab (and after experiencing the limitations with clearance issues due to the length/wheelbase of the 3T) I have been researching and pricing a 4" Rancho lift for the 3T tonight by the time I get back to Moab.
06 H3
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Sweet! I think the 3T would benefit from the lift even more because of the longer wheelbase. The added trackwidth would take care of side to side stability and the long wheelbase would leave zero concerns on a front to back stability for steep climbs.
06 H3
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Btw make sure you get the new updated springs not the old set, it will give you headaches...dont want you to deal with that problem if you can avoid it.
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All this talk of a lift makes me want one too!
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06 H3
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not 100% sure...I did some searching around and didnt find any differences on the rancho site. Thinking about all the parts needed to do the lift I dont think their is anything specific to the T. The front end parts are the same and the rear brackets would be the same. Only difference may be springs for different weight.
Sierra H3
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Hey Chris: How did the clearance under the rear shocks work out when rock climbing? If I recall correctly, you had some concerns after noticing a 1 inch loss of ground clearance with the new leaf springs.
06 H3
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I lost 1 1/2 inches in clearance but after measuring the height I still had more clearance with the low profile shock mounts then the BA/Hunner rear skids. I didnt get hung up on them in moab. I actually believe it will be more of a liability in so cal with loose rocks. We shall see.