Who's running what winch?

[backcountryislife]

Guys this is just my experience, but I Hate Synthetic lines. I have seen 8 lines snap through all my wheeling and not one was steel, all synthetic. I have seen steel always out preform synthetic. I know the weight an all is dangerous, but find the failure rate is just to high for me.

But then again I don't know how well they took care of their lines.

As a climber, imagine how long your rope would last if you let people walk on it, dragged it over rocks, all that kind of stuff... it's the same with synthetic, you just need to care for it at least a little bit. IF you drag it through 100 feet of mud... maybe spool it out at the end of the day & wash it.

Particles that get into the weave of the rope will eat it up little by little, just like a climbing rope. If you care for it, it will hold up better.

Weight & danger of synthetic, or maintenance of synthetic... it's a trade off for sure.

 

[poncho1965]

Got a few local guys with the recon & at least one on here... all seem to have good to say.

Just found a steelcraft mount/brushguard locally for $200 yesterday... recon will be on the way soon.
Waterproof, includes a remote, and comes with synthetic line... works for me!

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Ordered this today : http://truckandwinch.com/recon-10-500-lb-winch.html Can't beat the price and features, IMO. Thanks for all the input everyone. I still don't plan on getting stuck but hey, you never know :giggle:

 

[backcountryislife]

Well... just picked this up a few min ago, guess I need to get something to put on the shelf now!

 

[bebe]

Awesome !

 

[58Bisc]

Cool! I'm sure you got it for a great price! I tried to get one before I grabbed my Thor, but had no luck. It's going to look great on the front of your truck. Try the link in this thread to look through the cheap winches. It is possible to get one cheap.

 

[Scarsman]

Ordered this today : http://truckandwinch.com/recon-10-500-lb-winch.html Can't beat the price and features, IMO. Thanks for all the input everyone. I still don't plan on getting stuck but hey, you never know :giggle:

Sweet! You will really like it!

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[justin94tt]

Looks like I'm the only one running an 8000lb winch.

 

[backcountryislife]

Cool! I'm sure you got it for a great price! I tried to get one before I grabbed my Thor, but had no luck. It's going to look great on the front of your truck. Try the link in this thread to look through the cheap winches. It is possible to get one cheap.

In case you haven't noticed the common thread with me being a cheap azz.... :wink: yeah, I got lucky, buddy told me about a friend, got it for 2 bills. Pretty stoked.

I'm on CL every day looking for cheap winches, but pretty sure I'm going recon, it's the cheapest 10k with synthetic. If I could find a good deal on the vr10000-s or the xrc 10 comp I'd go that route as well... but the s*ittybilt is $100 more, and the warn is way more. If I find a good deal though... all bets are off!


yep... just found the deal I was looking for... top of the line!

Only $100 & you get some free exercise along with the deal!

 

[poncho1965]

And now the high mount is ordered. Received the winch today gotta get this thing installed :thumbs:

 

[Schwarttzy]

just picked this up

Woot!

 

[poncho1965]

One more question: is most everyone hooking their winch up with the original H3 battery terminals? They somehow look totally inadequate

 

[backcountryislife]

Woot!

Got the mount on... looks pretty sad & lonely without a winch!!!:huh:

Poncho, post up what you think of the Recon once you get a chance to play with it a bit! Good question btw... I was wondering if there were any tips to getting it hooked up.

 

[alrock]

I think it depends which original terminals you have. The 06–07 terminals do not have an accessory post so it is advisable to put on better terminals. The newer ones do have an accessory post so they work better but would still benefit from an upgrade.

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[poncho1965]

Got the mount on... looks pretty sad & lonely without a winch!!!:huh:

Poncho, post up what you think of the Recon once you get a chance to play with it a bit! Good question btw... I was wondering if there were any tips to getting it hooked up.

That looks great BC!

I have to wait a bit on the build time for the High Mount, but will be posting pics and impressions once it's all installed

 

[poncho1965]

I think it depends which original terminals you have. The 06–07 terminals do not have an accessory post so it is advisable to put on better terminals. The newer ones do have an accessory post so they work better but would still benefit from an upgrade.

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Don't feel very good about tying to the 06 terminals, basically they're sh••. Do you think marine terminals with an accessory lug will suffice? Considered an Optima with top and side lugs but I hear you are not advised to use the side lugs for a winch.

 

[58Bisc]

Considered an Optima with top and side lugs but I hear you are not advised to use the side lugs for a winch.

Just had this question answered by Optima tech support. Side lugs are for starting only. All winches and other accessories must be run from the top posts.

 

[Sierra H3]

Nobody mentioned using a hydraulic winch. I read they are the way to go for repetitive usage like trail clearing. Ranch work, etc. Anyone out there with experience?

 

[ReconH3]

Hydraulic winches only work with running engine. If your truck is on its side or rolled, you can't run the engine to use the winch. Same in the water. If for any reason BCM gets water or similar, and nobody can help you out, your truck will be stuck in the water. The longer it stays in, the more damage you will incur. That's just a few examples.


"Ex Umbris Venimus"

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[Sierra H3]

Got it, electric is superior for solo offroad extraction. But, as I understand it, the duty cycle of electric is prohibitive for continuous work. I actually have fallen timber on property I am slowly developing. Dual use is an attractive option for me. By the way does the US Army standardize on Milemarker hydraulic for the HUMVEE?

 

[ReconH3]

Electric winches are great and reliable as long as it has the amount of electricity it needs. If you have a measly alternator and batt, it runs out of juice fast and starts to overheat. In turn that causes damage. High output alternator and dual batteries will keep your electric winch happy. Ideal setup would be dual alternators with one running two batts for winch and accessories. The other can stay OEM for factory electrics. Only time I would use a hydraulic winch, would be on a work truck that stays on normal roads. I'm running a Warn 12,000 HMMWV winch on my truck and it's electrical.


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[Sierra H3]

Valuable feedback. Now, I got more to puzzle over! :huh:

 

[backcountryislife]

If you're putting the same load on a 8000 lb winch that you're putting on a 12000 lb winch (pulling the same 4000 lb jeep up a feature) is there a difference in which will require more from the batteries/ alternator?

I was purchasing by the assumption that using a bigger winch at a lower duty cycle/ percentage of it's ability would be less stressful.

While it may be less stressful on the winch... is that creating more stress on the electrical system?

That's a factor I hadn't considered all that much. I assumed that the two went hand in hand... but maybe I'm not looking at that properly?

 

[poncho1965]

Yah, while a Chevy 350 will do the job, a 454 will do it not breathing so hard. My thinking but this might be an apples and oranges comparison....

 

[08SolarFlareH3]

If you're putting the same load on a 8000 lb winch that you're putting on a 12000 lb winch (pulling the same 4000 lb jeep up a feature) is there a difference in which will require more from the batteries/ alternator?

I was purchasing by the assumption that using a bigger winch at a lower duty cycle/ percentage of it's ability would be less stressful.

While it may be less stressful on the winch... is that creating more stress on the electrical system?

That's a factor I hadn't considered all that much. I assumed that the two went hand in hand... but maybe I'm not looking at that properly?

VR8000 - 8000lbs winch

Line Pull Lbs		Motor Current
2000		179.2 amps
4000		281 amps
6000		381 amps
8000		457 amps

VR12000 - 12000lbs winch

Line Pull Lbs		Motor Current
2000		144 amps
4000		215 amps
6000		281 amps
8000		349 amps

 

[08SolarFlareH3]

Another example. The M8000 vs M12000

Line Pull Lbs		Motor Current
2000		200 amps
4000		285 amps
6000		350 amps
8000		435 amps

Line Pull Lbs		Motor Current
2000		140 amps
4000		210 amps
6000		250 amps
8000		320 amps