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derian06

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Me rushing to take out my PCM then to my battery. Thought yall would enjoy this photo.
My gf and her friend in the backround.

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SuperBuickGuy

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As far as the difference in suspension between the alpha and i5 it's just the leaf springs right?


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1) cast iron front differential
2) stiffer springs
3) larger radiator and coolers
4) different skid plates
5) different transmission
6) different computers
7) different firewall
8) different exhaust
9) different gear ratio
 

derian06

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1) cast iron front differential
2) stiffer springs
3) larger radiator and coolers
4) different skid plates
5) different transmission
6) different computers
7) different firewall
8) different exhaust
9) different gear ratio

I thought all the gear ratio's are 4.56? So i would need a different transmission? Radiator? Firewall and computers arent a problem since I need new ones anyways.


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SuperBuickGuy

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I thought all the gear ratio's are 4.56? So i would need a different transmission? Radiator? Firewall and computers arent a problem since I need new ones anyways.


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but don't forget the wiring harness - rewiring a vehicle is not a fun task

and no
the Alphas are 4.10 gears
 

derian06

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but don't forget the wiring harness - rewiring a vehicle is not a fun task

and no
the Alphas are 4.10 gears

So i'm looking at having to re-gear, new radiator, new wiring(which i'll already need), engine mounts, BCM, PCM, ECM, and leaf springs? Which of those are a MUST and which are for comfort and performance?

With an I5 i'd need new Electronics and a new engine so the only difference is the mounts, leaf spring, radiator, and gears?


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Woodtick

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I wish I was your mechanic$$$$$ all the way to the bank. Are you going to do any of the repair work or clean up work? How can a teenager take a 10k hit,like it's buying a pair of shoes?It's none of my business,no need to respond. More of a statement on my part.
 

amrg

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So i'm looking at having to re-gear, new radiator, new wiring(which i'll already need), engine mounts, BCM, PCM, ECM, and leaf springs? Which of those are a MUST and which are for comfort and performance?

With an I5 i'd need new Electronics and a new engine so the only difference is the mounts, leaf spring, radiator, and gears?


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Nope, ur not even gona think about regearing if you drop the V8. 4.56 on our V8s would be great esp when running 35s! You don't want to miss on that torque (if regearing wasnt costly I wouldve justified regearing to 4.56 when I added 35s, I will do in the long run when I replace my tires with 37s)
As for springs, the leafs are the same, its the torsion bars that are different. The radiator is the same too I believe!
 

derian06

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I wish I was your mechanic$$$$$ all the way to the bank. Are you going to do any of the repair work or clean up work? How can a teenager take a 10k hit,like it's buying a pair of shoes?It's none of my business,no need to respond. More of a statement on my part.

It's not like that at all I promise you, it's complicated. And yes i'll be working with him through the whole process. You'll just have to take my word on this.


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BW_Hummer H3

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With all the money you plan on spending you might be better off selling this one for parts and saving for a new H3. Then you dont have to worry about future electrical gremlins.

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derian06

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Ahh now we know the reason you hit that hole. Did it benefit you any? Lol jk man.

Tried to show a new city girl with not very many friends a good time for my girlfriend. And you know it was great! Until I hit the hole that ruined the last 6-8months of work i've put into my rig. But again I should have checked the hole out first.


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Mr_Rich

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It's not like that at all I promise you, it's complicated. And yes i'll be working with him through the whole process. You'll just have to take my word on this.

Any engine swap, even a stock engine swap, will nickel-and-dime you to death. IMO, you have no realistic idea what you're going to have to deal with
in this situation.... It will go way beyond your current ideas...
 

derian06

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It's not like that at all I promise you, it's complicated. And yes i'll be working with him through the whole process. You'll just have to take my word on this.

Any engine swap, even a stock engine swap, will nickel-and-dime you to death. IMO, you have no realistic idea what you're going to have to deal with
in this situation.... It will go way beyond your current ideas...

Do we have any knowledge of this? The things i've read about colorado swaps and H3 swaps all seem pretty straight foward. It is definitely possible and If there are repairs that have to be made along the way, it just provides a learning experience where I may expand my knowledge base on motor swaps and engines. I've already gotten links on the electronics and wiring harnesses to beable to make the swap actually happen.


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SolidusJ

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Do we have any knowledge of this? The things i've read about colorado swaps and H3 swaps all seem pretty straight foward. It is definitely possible and If there are repairs that have to be made along the way, it just provides a learning experience where I may expand my knowledge base on motor swaps and engines. I've already gotten links on the electronics and wiring harnesses to beable to make the swap actually happen.




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EVERYTHING seems simple until your balls deep into it. Your going to do what you want and you will learn the hard way, anyway how much is still owed on the sub?
 

derian06

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EVERYTHING seems simple until your balls deep into it. Your going to do what you want and you will learn the hard way, anyway how much is still owed on the sub?

15000$ insurance would cover 12 minus a 1000$ dedictible, plus insurance being over 4000$ a year after that plus buying a new car.

Engine swap and electronics would be around 10k

15,000-11,000=4000

Insurance raising to 4000$ a year vs 2000

New car would have to be 4000$ to equal the same amount of money i'd put into the hummer. And an extra 6000$ in insurance money before the accident goes away.

3.7 or 5.3 is the best way to go by far.


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Bigunit

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EVERYTHING seems simple until your balls deep into it. Your going to do what you want and you will learn the hard way, anyway how much is still owed on the sub?
That' s how we all learn. If derian chooses to go this route and is willing to share his experiences with all if us here, we will all learn something new and our community will then take his experience and push the envelope even more.
 

derian06

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That' s how we all learn. If derian chooses to go this route and is willing to share his experiences with all if us here, we will all learn something new and our community will then take his experience and push the envelope even more.

This is the response I'm looking for, thank you for your positivity.


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chad

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hey man i'm with you!! if that was me i would do a diesel swap just to go all the way, but yes no smaller than a v-8, but i have so much in my truck i couldnt just let it go, and like you said your gonna get raped in either way, the hummer is a great brand and unique so its best to see which raping will make you happiest, and maybe just maybe it wont be as bad as every makes it out to be, also like youve read, and its been done with diesels on here and colorado's with v-8's its possible just gonna be a little time and some more money, but when you do all the upgrades you'll have a lower mileage truck that may be worth more and last even longer in the long run, i plan on keeping my truck as long as it will stay together, when this motor dies it will get a diesel unless they have something better by then.
 

derian06

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hey man i'm with you!! if that was me i would do a diesel swap just to go all the way, but yes no smaller than a v-8, but i have so much in my truck i couldnt just let it go, and like you said your gonna get raped in either way, the hummer is a great brand and unique so its best to see which raping will make you happiest, and maybe just maybe it wont be as bad as every makes it out to be, also like youve read, and its been done with diesels on here and colorado's with v-8's its possible just gonna be a little time and some more money, but when you do all the upgrades you'll have a lower mileage truck that may be worth more and last even longer in the long run, i plan on keeping my truck as long as it will stay together, when this motor dies it will get a diesel unless they have something better by then.

I plan on working on my hummer with my son when i'm older man, theres no way a little water can ruin the whole thing. And far as the diesel goes I really don't want to risk the 10k motor swap turn into a 18,000$ project. I'm sure the 5.3 won't be nearly as bad as a diesel swap.


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