I'm ****ed

[derian06]

The thing is that my pcm and tcm are already fried so should i get the alpha or get another i5, i'm going to have to get new ones either way so I just assumed getting an alphas would be the best option.


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[Can007]

Damn..... 10G's???? I know you dont want to hear this but you should really just get a new 3.7 engine and trade ur h3 down the line for an alpha? I am very optimistic but spending 10k is simply is not worth it, that amount is just the engine and not even the other electrical issue you will face. If the engine was ok, it would be worth dealing with those issues but spending 10k is another story. Sorry brother, but please reconsider and make the smart move and not the emotional move.

 

[cgalpha08]

I'll leave it as this....anything is possible as long as your willing to pay with money and time to do it right.

Below are options 1-3 easiest to hardest

1. The easiest option is to get an alpha or 5cyl(everything is already done and you won't face electrical gremlins)

2. Next easiest is to swap in a 5cyl and fix whatever you may think is fried and fix as you go. (Might be cheaper than option 1, too many variables to know for sure)

3. I think swapping all new 5cyl parts and new v8 parts in (engine, harness, computer, etc) would be on the same level of difficulty... (not necessarily financially speaking). Remember alphas fire walls are slightly different, different transmission (I think?), stiffer torsion bars, and a couple of other things

*Note: some people may disagree, that's fine, this is just how I see it* :thumbs:

 

[derian06]

Damn..... 10G's???? I know you dont want to hear this but you should really just get a new 3.7 engine and trade ur h3 down the line for an alpha? I am very optimistic but spending 10k is simply is not worth it, that amount is just the engine and not even the other electrical issue you will face. If the engine was ok, it would be worth dealing with those issues but spending 10k is another story. Sorry brother, but please reconsider and make the smart move and not the emotional move.

10k is for everything, electrical, motor, interior. For it all.


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[derian06]

10k is for everything, electrical, motor, interior. For it all, and it is ALOT more expensive to trade it in or total it for an alpha.


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[derian06]

I'll leave it as this....anything is possible as long as your willing to pay with money and time to do it right.

Below are options 1-3 easiest to hardest

1. The easiest option is to get an alpha or 5cyl(everything is already done and you won't face electrical gremlins)

2. Next easiest is to swap in a 5cyl and fix whatever you may think is fried and fix as you go. (Might be cheaper than option 1, too many variables to know for sure)

3. I think swapping all new 5cyl parts and new v8 parts in (engine, harness, computer, etc) would be on the same level of difficulty... (not necessarily financially speaking). Remember alphas fire walls are slightly different, different transmission (I think?), stiffer torsion bars, and a couple of other things

*Note: some people may disagree, that's fine, this is just how I see it* :thumbs:

I'm working with a guy who literally does 5.3L swaps for a living. He puts em in camrys, old mustangs and camaros, even in a honda civic. I'm not too worried about the difficulty, this guy is great and really knowledgeable.


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[Hans3T]

I'm gone a couple days and this happens?!

Derian, I've read through the comments and I think you're rolling with the punches and handling the situation well. If I were in your shoes I think I would have changed my name and deserted. :wink:

I'm old enough to know better, but not so old as to preach to you, good or bad. I hope that you find happiness in the truck, whatever you end up doing. For my .02.......I would not put thousands into it. Best of luck to you, man.

 

[Can007]

I am sorry to say... but you are wrong, your spending unnecessary. At the end of the day it is your truck and your money and I am only giving you my opinion. I don't mean to press but if you were my brother I would tell u to fix it as cheap as possible, enjoy it a while longer and then get an 2010 alpha. Take a pole and 95% of the members would agree only because they want to help you.

sorry if I am being pushy, I don’t mean to be disrepectful.

 

[Can007]

I'm gone a couple days and this happens?!

Derian, I've read through the comments and I think you're rolling with the punches and handling the situation well. If I were in your shoes I think I would have changed my name and deserted. :wink:

I'm old enough to know better, but not so old as to preach to you, good or bad. I hope that you find happiness in the truck, whatever you end up doing. For my .02.......I would not put thousands into it. Best of luck to you, man.

You are right... I got caught up in the pain.

Derian good luck with whatever you decide.

 

[digglesworth]

+1. I'd try and find an 2010 alpha adventure. V8. Front and rear lockers. 4:1 t case. You get the best of what the H3 has to offer. And if you have that much money to throw around, you could fix your truck and still have money leftover for a down payment with the trade. You gotta weigh out how much you have in your truck vs how much it would take to add that to a new truck. Take off what will transfer over and cut your losses. It seems like a v8 is what you really want and will stop at nothing to get it. Just don't screw yourself by creating a monster.

 

[derian06]

Again to you all, we have a very complicated financial situation and this is the best decision. In order to go into complete detail, I would have to get very personal. You all will just have to trust me on this one, and if not me on then my father. If getting a 2010 V8 with 4:1 T case and lockers were an option I would DEFINITELY DO THAT. Trust me, that would be the best thing ever. But in my family's financial situation this is the best choice.

So instead of telling me to change my mind, I need some help with this swap.

Again I PROMISE you all that this is the best choice for the money.


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[Zach]

You might want to have your father read this thread before going after this. IMHO you are, well he is throwing the 10k plus and it will be plus down the drain and beating a dead horse. The water damage you have is never ending. I'm speaking from experience of seeing these cars. It's a money pit that is never ending as well as the problems. Just saying.

 

[SolidusJ]

You might want to have your father read this thread before going after this. IMHO you are, well he is throwing the 10k plus and it will be plus down the drain and beating a dead horse. The water damage you have is never ending. I'm speaking from experience of seeing these cars. It's a money pit that is never ending as well as the problems. Just saying.

This the part I've have been seeing from the start of all this, it's not the kids cash it's the father that has to bust his @ss for the cash. But really who gives a kid an H3 making payments also? :no: My water damage was bad but knock on wood 50K on her and it's like nothing ever happen, there is a chance you could do this and that and get away with it but I wasn't as deep. Biggest thing I think of is mold and all the crap that could be living in the blower motor now.

 

[3Hummers]

Got to do what you need to do. You know your situation best.

 

[derian06]

You might want to have your father read this thread before going after this. IMHO you are, well he is throwing the 10k plus and it will be plus down the drain and beating a dead horse. The water damage you have is never ending. I'm speaking from experience of seeing these cars. It's a money pit that is never ending as well as the problems. Just saying.

He is not throwing the money I am.


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[derian06]

This the part I've have been seeing from the start of all this, it's not the kids cash it's the father that has to bust his @ss for the cash. But really who gives a kid an H3 making payments also? :no: My water damage was bad but knock on wood 50K on her and it's like nothing ever happen, there is a chance you could do this and that and get away with it but I wasn't as deep. Biggest thing I think of is mold and all the crap that could be living in the blower motor now.

Cleaned it all sir. Down to the last notch.


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[derian06]

Just stay tuned for the swap.


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[chad]

Well I've been around water a whole lot, with electronics and salt water a lot too. It was only suergerged a few hours, and i don't think it as bad as you guys make it out to be, it may take time to get every little kink out but as long as it on the road he has a car to get to work, then he can fix things as they come along. I see you guys are saying ditch it and get another but shoot he would be spending 2x as much or more for an alpha plus his payments on that truck. If he said its the best option to do the route he's doing then it must be his best route, I trust they know their own finances a lot better than we do so give him a break, let him do what he chooses and we can learn as this goes along. I suspect he will not be the last one to ever swamp his hummer and definitely isn't the first. And I would do the same thing except try to go diesel. But the very least do the v8. Man I hope this thread doesn't scare you away there's not many hummer owners out ther that wheel them. At least you can say you met your fording limits!!! Ohh and at least he is taking responsibility over this and know what he has, if he totals it out hell just be pawning it off on someone else and they will have to figure out from scratch what to do with it. If it where submerged for days I would understand more on not dealing with it. Maybe.

 

[Woodtick]

:corn::cheers::shame::corn::cheers:

 

[Airborne]

so you're going to completely reprogram a 5 cylinder computer to run 8? how, exactly are you going to get the 07 computer to recognize the extra coils and the extra injectors? that'd be a cute magic trick... which comes back to why work so hard when GM did it for you. The hardest part will be to get the other computers to play nice with your new engine computer. But I do love the stick-up-your-ass-attitude... so carry on with that magic trick.

get the V8 wiring harness, PCM, BCM, and TCM.... again, were it me, I'd buy a wrecked Alpha, failing that I'd have 150tunes splice in the PCM into the stock 07 H3 harness.

years ago... damn, decades ago, a friend decided that he wanted EFI on his 85 Chevy truck, so he swapped in an 87 motor (efi motor) and set about wiring in the motor. In the end, he swapped every bit of wire from the 87 (and the dash cluster) onto the 85 - nothing was the same. 07 and 08 had some differences in the vehicles (e.g. air bag arrangement) and for that reason my guess is the wiring harness is substantially different than the 07. It is not plug and play, but it can be if you get someone to make the harness for you. The fab work is easy, but since absolutely everything is electric on the H3, getting everything to play together will be the major challenge.

yes you can reprogram it to recognize anything. You just have to load the vehicle profile on there. I'm sorry but you are getting mad about something you aren't versed in. I am telling you it can be done and isn't hard. It isn't a 5 cylinder computer or an 8 cylinder computer. Just a computer. Lets keep it professional.

 

[derian06]

yes you can reprogram it to recognize anything. You just have to load the vehicle profile on there. I'm sorry but you are getting mad about something you aren't versed in. I am telling you it can be done and isn't hard. It isn't a 5 cylinder computer or an 8 cylinder computer. Just a computer. Lets keep it professional.

Thank you, its nice to have some support. And like i said i'm working with someone that does 5.3 swaps for a living. If I wanted to, I could tell him to have at it. He already has all the harnesses, wiring, and computer to go with it. I'm just trying to figure out which is cheaper and more reliable.


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[derian06]

Well I've been around water a whole lot, with electronics and salt water a lot too. It was only suergerged a few hours, and i don't think it as bad as you guys make it out to be, it may take time to get every little kink out but as long as it on the road he has a car to get to work, then he can fix things as they come along. I see you guys are saying ditch it and get another but shoot he would be spending 2x as much or more for an alpha plus his payments on that truck. If he said its the best option to do the route he's doing then it must be his best route, I trust they know their own finances a lot better than we do so give him a break, let him do what he chooses and we can learn as this goes along. I suspect he will not be the last one to ever swamp his hummer and definitely isn't the first. And I would do the same thing except try to go diesel. But the very least do the v8. Man I hope this thread doesn't scare you away there's not many hummer owners out ther that wheel them. At least you can say you met your fording limits!!! Ohh and at least he is taking responsibility over this and know what he has, if he totals it out hell just be pawning it off on someone else and they will have to figure out from scratch what to do with it. If it where submerged for days I would understand more on not dealing with it. Maybe.

I will make it my own job to find every last connection in this 3 to make sure they aren't wet or corroded. By the time i'm done i'll know my 3 in and out.

Thanks for your support


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[Airborne]

Thank you, its nice to have some support. And like i said i'm working with someone that does 5.3 swaps for a living. If I wanted to, I could tell him to have at it. He already has all the harnesses, wiring, and computer to go with it. I'm just trying to figure out which is cheaper and more reliable.


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It sounds like you have some good info then. Drive on and if the guy is ok with it take pics along the way. I think you would really enjoy the 5.3 vs the 3.7 and already having the 4:56 gears you would be ahead of the alpha. Ready for a set of some mean 38's .

 

[derian06]

It sounds like you have some good info then. Drive on and if the guy is ok with it take pics along the way. I think you would really enjoy the 5.3 vs the 3.7 and already having the 4:56 gears you would be ahead of the alpha. Ready for a set of some mean 38's .

Once I get all of this sorted out, i'll be sure to keep the mods up! I'm just going to deal with the i5 leaf springs until I can do a Rancho and a SOA.


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[poweraidon]

Once I get all of this sorted out, i'll be sure to keep the mods up! I'm just going to deal with the i5 leaf springs until I can do a Rancho and a SOA.


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I'm guessing you want to keep your h3 for a reallyyy long time?


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