I'm ****ed

[derian06]

I'll be calling various body shops, dealerships, and my mechanic on monday. To look for one of these.


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[Gunner_45]

Derian, sorry about your truck man.

That is an EPIC suk. However, **** happens and ya gotta deal with it.

Good luck with the resto-build.......you will most likely need it.

:wink:

As for this thread, I think it is about time to just drop it and concentrate on and constructively contribute, to the young man's build thread.

It is absolutely no one's ****ing business where the kid's money comes from or what he does with said funds.

(as long as he aint pimping out his little sister, running a preschool drug ring or putting on donkey shows, I could not care less)

Although it does not seem the reasonable course of action to some, he appears to be determined to salvage his truck.

How many times have we all seen someone spend big bucks to resurrect a POS / Lost cause vehicle and end up with their dream ride.

I suspect there is more to this than simple economics.

Derian, if you wish (since it is YOUR thread in the first place) I can lock it down to prevent further posts.

Will not remove it, as that would negate/devalue folks input.....but locking it would stop further beating of the proverbial dead horse.

 

[citiboy]

Goodluck on the build-up dude...i support you 100% on this...don't forget to document everything....you will learn a lot from this \m/

 

[benlaud87]

I would definitely spend $10k+ to resurrect my vehicle if that happened to me. Good luck on the build

 

[derian06]

Derian, sorry about your truck man.

That is an EPIC suk. However, **** happens and ya gotta deal with it.

Good luck with the resto-build.......you will most likely need it.

:wink:

As for this thread, I think it is about time to just drop it and concentrate on and constructively contribute, to the young man's build thread.

It is absolutely no one's ****ing business where the kid's money comes from or what he does with said funds.

(as long as he aint pimping out his little sister, running a preschool drug ring or putting on donkey shows, I could not care less)

Although it does not seem the reasonable course of action to some, he appears to be determined to salvage his truck.

How many times have we all seen someone spend big bucks to resurrect a POS / Lost cause vehicle and end up with their dream ride.

I suspect there is more to this than simple economics.

Derian, if you wish (since it is YOUR thread in the first place) I can lock it down to prevent further posts.

Will not remove it, as that would negate/devalue folks input.....but locking it would stop further beating of the proverbial dead horse.

I don't think locking this post is needed, it seems as though all negative comments have come to a hault. Although they we're an annoyance, i understand that some were actually trying to look out for me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you would like to lock the thread you are more then welcome to, but I am indifferent to it. In saying so if anyone has any information to help me with my build please post it to the build thread. I know i'll need as much help as I can get!


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[Bigunit]

I would definitely spend $10k+ to resurrect my vehicle if that happened to me. Good luck on the build

I have to say, I probably would too, as my T completes me!

 

[Zach]

Finding a used 2014 drivetrain will be tough. Not to mention most wrecking yards cut the harnesses when pulling them out. You would also have to replace the whole electrical system. Then there is the programming issue. The new trucks are not programmed with a tech 2 anymore. Updates are done online and would have to go to a dealer. I would rule this option out. There are performance motors that come with wiring and electronics. And you can buy a trans to match. They are expensive though.

 

[derian06]

Finding a used 2014 drivetrain will be tough. Not to mention most wrecking yards cut the harnesses when pulling them out. You would also have to replace the whole electrical system. Then there is the programming issue. The new trucks are not programmed with a tech 2 anymore. Updates are done online and would have to go to a dealer. I would rule this option out. There are performance motors that come with wiring and electronics. And you can buy a trans to match. They are expensive though.

If I were to do this I would get it new straight from a dealership. I'd have to see what my 5.3 guy thinks about the wiring and electronics because he does his own. What about the transmission is it suitable to handle it? I know I would have to change things to it like the bellhousing. But would a completely different one have to be installed?


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[Zach]

Problem with buying new from a dealership is they have core charges. Some of the 5.3's have a $2500 core charge on them that you won't get back. Trans, most bell housing are part if the case. Trans core range from $700-$1200

 

[SolidusJ]

If I were to do this I would get it new straight from a dealership. I'd have to see what my 5.3 guy thinks about the wiring and electronics because he does his own. What about the transmission is it suitable to handle it? I know I would have to change things to it like the bellhousing. But would a completely different one have to be installed?


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I tell you what I would do if this happen to me. 2001 2500 24V Ram extended cab wheel base is 136" and H3T is 134", the goal is to body swap extend hood and fenders and add a 1" body lift to clear the tranny. Donor truck with 130,XXX miles out in UT goes for 8-10K sell the everything but the frame and driver train make maybe 6K back. Keep the hummer fuse block for the BCM and stick the ram cluster in. Time consuming yes, project cost after everything high teens, and is it worth it? To me yes so maybe look into a silverado for a body swap? Don't mind me the pain meds are REALLY kicking in.

 

[Ghostbuster]

Sorry but I don't believe that you can buy a brand new 5.3l ecotec from gm and your total after everything is fixed is under 10k. I'm not saying it's impossible.. I'm just saying that it's highly unlikely and that you should go another route. It's a good idea though.. but to stick to your budget.. probably not gonna happen. Just my .02 cents.

But if you can show me the numbers I'd be glad to look.

 

[derian06]

Sorry but I don't believe that you can buy a brand new 5.3l ecotec from gm and your total after everything is fixed is under 10k. I'm not saying it's impossible.. I'm just saying that it's highly unlikely and that you should go another route. It's a good idea though.. but to stick to your budget.. probably not gonna happen. Just my .02 cents.

But if you can show me the numbers I'd be glad to look.

I understand that it would be over budget, but that also comes with more hp, torque, and better gas mileage. The difference between 12-14 and 16-20 is huge for a daily driver and may be worth an extra couple of thousand. But again this is all skeptics until I can call around and talk to my mechanic what is really going to happen. We're both going through our resources to see what is the best option for my H3 for the money. If a new ecotech is 7,000$ there is no way in hell I would do that, but 3700$ for a new 5.3 vs 4500$ for a new ecotech thats something that would pay for itself in a couple of years. I still have alot of research to do. Hell who knows maybe a 6.2L will go in. But if thats close to mash motors 18,500$ then it's not happening.


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[derian06]

I tell you what I would do if this happen to me. 2001 2500 24V Ram extended cab wheel base is 136" and H3T is 134", the goal is to body swap extend hood and fenders and add a 1" body lift to clear the tranny. Donor truck with 130,XXX miles out in UT goes for 8-10K sell the everything but the frame and driver train make maybe 6K back. Keep the hummer fuse block for the BCM and stick the ram cluster in. Time consuming yes, project cost after everything high teens, and is it worth it? To me yes so maybe look into a silverado for a body swap? Don't mind me the pain meds are REALLY kicking in.

This is a really good idea and i'll definitely look into it. I just don't think I would have the resources to be able to sell off the extras. Maybe my mechanic could though. He does know alot of people around town.


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[SuperBuickGuy]

Sorry but I don't believe that you can buy a brand new 5.3l ecotec from gm and your total after everything is fixed is under 10k. I'm not saying it's impossible.. I'm just saying that it's highly unlikely and that you should go another route. It's a good idea though.. but to stick to your budget.. probably not gonna happen. Just my .02 cents.

But if you can show me the numbers I'd be glad to look.

ecotec is a 4 cyl. motor...

though it is an option to simply buy a LS3 crate motor from GM - it's basically plug and play, however, the motor alone costs more than your budget.

 

[derian06]

this isnt too far away and runs. Thoughts?


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[Zach]

You would have to run all the ford electronics and modules. Might even through off the tcase and abs systems

 

[derian06]

You would have to run all the ford electronics and modules. Might even through off the tcase and abs systems

Why ford when this is a GMC?


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[Zach]

Why ford when this is a GMC?


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Sorry, you were talking about ford earlier. Didnt even look at the pic. Even a newer gmc. You will probably have problems with the computers talking to each other. Abs, and such

 

[derian06]

ecotec is a 4 cyl. motor...

though it is an option to simply buy a LS3 crate motor from GM - it's basically plug and play, however, the motor alone costs more than your budget.

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The LS swap is most likely whats going to happen although it would probably be a used one.


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[derian06]

Found a 2014 in Atlanta with body damage, but the main damage was "BIOHAZARDOUS/CHEMICAL" [emoji15][emoji15] What has that truck been through.


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[Ghostbuster]

As long as the motor starts and runs fine...(rear end damage is good) That would be great if you could get a wrecked 14 with the 5.3l ecotec v8. It may have a big up front cost but hey... you can pull the motor and maybe that tranny and use that in your h3 and then part out the rest... parting out will take awhile but you will recoup a lot of $

 

[SuperBuickGuy]

be careful on later motors - your best option would be to find a motor out of the same year as your 2007 Hummer (not alpha, obviously). later motors tend to have more smog stuff (for example), so making it work in an earlier chassis can be problematic. Another issue is the later the motor, the less people who have dealt with the motor - so when problems happen (not if, when), you'll find a lot more people who will say "I had the same issue with mine" rather than "well, back in 01 I had one of them Vortecs, and it was a POS" or "why don't you just put a flathead in it?" sorry, I hate HAMB, and every chance I get to trash on them is a good time.

 

[Ghostbuster]

http://www.copart.com/c2/homeSearch...e5s1&lotId=25010304&returnPage=SEARCH_RESULTS

In Montgomery

 

[derian06]

http://www.copart.com/c2/homeSearch...e5s1&lotId=25010304&returnPage=SEARCH_RESULTS

In Montgomery

So what do you think the final bid would be on something like that?


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[chaos254]

Just check local junkyards. Tons of gm trucks came with 5.3s. They should be very easy to find