Mash Motors 6.2L V8 Swap

[poweraidon]

By who?

Probably by dealer

 

[Ghostbuster]

This thread is depressing in so many ways...

Mods should lock or delete this thread.

OP should go back to his old thread for more helpful advice and really narrow down what he is really gonna do... And then make a new build thread to show off your awesome H3 when it is working again...

 

[derian06]

This thread is depressing in so many ways...

Mods should lock or delete this thread.

OP should go back to his old thread for more helpful advice and really narrow down what he is really gonna do... And then make a new build thread to show off your awesome H3 when it is working again...

I'm 100% for that idea.

 

[derian06]

this is what i've read so far for the BCM issue

 

[zackcrum]

This thread is depressing in so many ways...

Mods should lock or delete this thread.

OP should go back to his old thread for more helpful advice and really narrow down what he is really gonna do... And then make a new build thread to show off your awesome H3 when it is working again...

Honestly I think both threads should be deleted. I have been pretty quiet on this so far but both this and the "in f*****" threads are full of comments I would hate for a person thinking of joining our forum to see. Maybe I'm overstepping my boundary as a pretty new member maybe not. But I often send others to h4o for tech and I would be embarrassed if they came back to me talking about this.

 

[alrock]

This thread is depressing in so many ways...

Mods should lock or delete this thread.

OP should go back to his old thread for more helpful advice and really narrow down what he is really gonna do... And then make a new build thread to show off your awesome H3 when it is working again...

I'm 100% for that idea.

Thread isn't going anywhere. Issue isn't about whether advice has been good or not but it's whether it's been perceived as good. If anyone wants only "helpful advice" that are mirrors of his own opinions then get elected POTUS. Until then we're all going to hear opinions and advice that are contrary to our own and the challenge is to choose which ones you want to follow.

The learning in this forum is as much about who posts as it is about what they post and there's a lot of education in this thread. Some posters are contributing knowledge, some are contributing drama.

Here, I'm unfortunately contributing drama. But it's kinda my job to address this stuff.

 

[jakesz28]

I personally would not pay 20000 for any motor swap. Hell I never had 20000 in my Camaro engine to run 8.9's @ 151mph.
I would part out your hummer and by the alpha. Then if you still insist to have a 6.2 it will bolt right in and any one that can change an engine can make that swap for you.

 

[derian06]

I personally would not pay 20000 for any motor swap. Hell I never had 20000 in my Camaro engine to run 8.9's @ 151mph.
I would part out your hummer and by the alpha. Then if you still insist to have a 6.2 it will bolt right in and any one that can change an engine can make that swap for you.

Is the second part of this true for sure? Would it actually fit without changing the firewall?

 

[poweraidon]

I personally would not pay 20000 for any motor swap. Hell I never had 20000 in my Camaro engine to run 8.9's @ 151mph.
I would part out your hummer and by the alpha. Then if you still insist to have a 6.2 it will bolt right in and any one that can change an engine can make that swap for you.

How much did you spend on your camaro and do you have pics? 8.9 [emoji7]

 

[derian06]

How much did you spend on your camaro and do you have pics? 8.9 [emoji7]

Camaro's and challengers are the only two sports/muscle cars I would own, besides older ones.

 

[poweraidon]

Camaro's and challengers are the only two sports/muscle cars I would own, besides older ones.

I'm a mustang guy (yes that is me getting pulled over haha)

Lol but the 2015's are sweet...

 

[derian06]

I'm a mustang guy (yes that is me getting pulled over haha)

Lol but the 2015's are sweet...

I've always wanted to ask, was your mustang wrapped?

The 2015's do look nice, but I would never own one.

 

[poweraidon]

I've always wanted to ask, was your mustang wrapped?

Haha nah it was dipped

Also dipped my brother in laws e92

 

[derian06]

Haha nah it was dipped

Also dipped my brother in laws e92

I'm guessing you bought a spray gun to do it, how was the process?

 

[Ghostbuster]

This thread went from oh I'm gonna do an engine swap to oh I'm looking at buying an alpha to oh I don't need your opinions to oh he's a vet.. sorry. to oh I'm still gonna do the engine swap... to sorry about the drama I'm not gonna post again until I get the project completed to oh lets talk more.. to oh nice plasti dip job...

Let's get it back on track and try to help this young man make an informed decision on the future of his h3...

All you have to do OP is listen to all of our suggestion, answer some questions regarding our suggestions, listen to our suggestions again and then weigh the pros and cons and then execute the plan. And lets try to leave the drama and silliness out of it.

I'm just looking for a good outcome for a fellow h3 owner.

Best of luck man.

Edit: I just saw that the OP made a 5.3l build thread on the 25th lol

 

[poweraidon]

I'm guessing you bought a spray gun to do it, how was the process?

Yeah I bought the DYC car kit and it came with all the materials... It wasn't hard just watch a lot of videos on YouTube and practice in your head haha. But when you start you wanna spray a light coat on the car but still being able to see the paint (50 percent transparency). Then let it dry after it dries apply second coat but this time lay down a thicker coat. And just repeat you wanna do about 5 or 6 coats. Remember you when you do the hood to make sure the gun is parallel to the hood so it doesn't have streaks. And make sure to do a 50 percent overlap on the previous spray pattern.

If you're planning on dipping your whole h3 I wouldn't recommend it. You'll get a lot of scratches and it won't hold up. But if you have a car you don't take off roading go ahead and dip it... It's great and a cheap way to change the look of your car. I promise you you'll get addict to it haha

 

[derian06]

Yeah I bought the DYC car kit and it came with all the materials... It wasn't hard just watch a lot of videos on YouTube and practice in your head haha. But when you start you wanna spray a light coat on the car but still being able to see the paint (50 percent transparency). Then let it dry after it dries apply second coat but this time lay down a thicker coat. And just repeat you wanna do about 5 or 6 coats. Remember you when you do the hood to make sure the gun is parallel to the hood so it doesn't have streaks. And make sure to do a 50 percent overlap on the previous spray pattern.

If you're planning on dipping your whole h3 I wouldn't recommend it. You'll get a lot of scratches and it won't hold up. But if you have a car you don't take off roading go ahead and dip it... It's great and a cheap way to change the look of your car. I promise you you'll get addict to it haha

If you've followed some of my other threads I hated my plasti-dip and just got done bed lining

it instead

 

[poweraidon]

If you've followed some of my other threads I hated my plasti-dip and just got done bed lining

it instead

Yeah for off roading I would use bed liner and for a street cars or mall crawler like my h3 plasti dip is a-ok [emoji108]

 

[jakesz28]

How much did you spend on your camaro and do you have pics? 8.9 [emoji7]

I had $6000 in the short block $2000 in the heads and $200 intake with two kits. If I ever put it back together now I $6000 in the heads another $1000 in welding and porting on my $200 intake.

 

[derian06]

I had $6000 in the short block $2000 in the heads and $200 intake with two kits. If I ever put it back together now I $6000 in the heads another $1000 in welding and porting on my $200 intake.

I wish I was mechanically inclined enough to do something like that my self. One day! But that is really impressive!

 

[Zach]

This thread went from oh I'm gonna do an engine swap to oh I'm looking at buying an alpha to oh I don't need your opinions to oh he's a vet.. sorry. to oh I'm still gonna do the engine swap... to sorry about the drama I'm not gonna post again until I get the project completed to oh lets talk more.. to oh nice plasti dip job...

Let's get it back on track and try to help this young man make an informed decision on the future of his h3...

All you have to do OP is listen to all of our suggestion, answer some questions regarding our suggestions, listen to our suggestions again and then weigh the pros and cons and then execute the plan. And lets try to leave the drama and silliness out of it.

I'm just looking for a good outcome for a fellow h3 owner.

Best of luck man.

Edit: I just saw that the OP made a 5.3l build thread on the 25th lol

All of these threads are a giant cluster **** and a never ending circle and drama filled. There have been plenty of members give pros and mainly cons. At one point maybe OP will look at it, highly doubt it. And realize not everyone is against him. I don't give a rats ass what happens, have said what I've said. It's not worth it when the budget was 10k, now it's doubled? **** that! I'd probably be crying when my truck was hauled off for the last time on the flat bed. But i would ditch it in a heart beat. But it is what it is. It is replaceable. And for 20k you can find a nice rig.

 

[derian06]

All of these threads are a giant cluster **** and a never ending circle and drama filled. There have been plenty of members give pros and mainly cons. At one point maybe OP will look at it, highly doubt it. And realize not everyone is against him. I don't give a rats ass what happens, have said what I've said. It's not worth it when the budget was 10k, now it's doubled? **** that! I'd probably be crying when my truck was hauled off for the last time on the flat bed. But i would ditch it in a heart beat. But it is what it is. It is replaceable. And for 20k you can find a nice rig.

I don't think everyone is against me?... The only people i thought that, were the ones who were cracking jokes and name calling. I'm looking at the cons and I most likely am getting a new H3, because I found a way to go through insurance.

The only reason why I was opposed to getting a new 3, is because There was no way to go through insurance at the time (that I could see) now there is and either way i'm spending more then $20,000 because of insurance. The budget was originally $10,000 yes. But things like that can change easily when you really get into it. Either way i'm out at least 20k. It's just whether or not i'm willing to gamble with it. I'm about 80% new h3 and 20% engine swap right now, and the BCM will put new information into my choice.

Cons to buying a new 3:
-is not distinct to me
-all my work would be gone
-50-80k miles
-Can't find yellow anywhere
-cost of redoing all my work
-Constant questions of my old H3
-Thinking about what could have been
-worse gas mileage (less money for mods)
-have to pay to put used tires on my old 3 to keep my km2's
-4.10 gearing
-engine doesn't compare to a 6.2L


Pros
-No chance for gremlins (hopefully)
-Upgraded from my original 3.7
-possible lockers
-cast iron diffs
-stronger suspension


Cons of salvaging my 3
-electrical gremlins could kill me
-may have one burned out oracle
-minor body damage on roof and hood
-May need new audio system
-regretting not getting a new 3
-no lockers
-no cast iron diffs
-weaker suspension (to be upgraded)

Pros
-one of the only 6.2L H3's
-Amazing performance
-good gas mileage
-all my work didn't go to waste
-The yellow has grown on me
-Insurance doesn't sky rocket my premium
-get to keep my tires
-Have a great story to tell if all goes well
-retain 4.56 gearing
-be able to handle whatever lift/tires I put on over the years
-0 miles on engine
-0 miles on transmission
-Custom exhaust

If anyone can add to the pros/cons of each that would be really helpful. Thanks again for all of your inputs!

 

[Big2dabank]

I did not see a cost in any of your listed scenarios. Cost should be the first item in each scenario. We all know you need to spend money to get your ass on the road again, but how much is the question and the additional money spent in each scenario will have a benefit, so weigh that benefit against its cost. If the money you get to fix your car is free, consider the source, i.e. your parents. It obviously did not grow on a tree, so where does that money come from? Investment account, your college fund, personal savings, etc. What value is lost to you or your parents by giving you this money today? As an example 20k invested over 5 years with modest gains of 7% annually would result in $28,353.50. So the 20k is not really free in that scenario. I'm sure you see my point. Lets say you repay your parents over the same 5 year period, but at 0%. It still cost your parents over $8,000 to give you the money. As a teenager, it would really help you to learn how to look at the value of money, time value of money, and both present and future worth analysis. I'm not going to go into detail about how to do this, as I'm sure your a smart kid and can figure out what to do. The lack of understanding of the value of money is a huge problem for most people and why a lot of people get into financial trouble. Like I said before, lay all your cards on the table and weigh your options thoroughly, pro/cons/cost. Every decision you make has a cost, don't know the cost, find out or make a rational estimate, but never a wild ass guess. If I were your parents, seeing you make the personal decision to go through this very detailed exercise would be very impressive and would show that you not only want to make the right choice given your circumstances, you want to make the smart financial choice for everyone involved.

You need to identify each one of your options, I see at least 5:

1. File insurance claim, buy used vehicle.
2. Invest in a new 3.7L for your current rig and keep it.
3. Invest in a new 3.7L for your rig, sell it, buy used vehicle.
3. Part out your rig and buy a used vehicle.
4. Invest in a new 6.2L V8 for your current rig.
5. Buy a used car to drive while you learn/teach yourself how to rebuild/fix your rig yourself, not easy, but doable, especially if you stick to the 3.7L.

Good luck. Everything you do in life teaches you a lesson, its up to you wether or not you choose to learn from it.

 

[derian06]

I did not see a cost in any of your listed scenarios. Cost should be the first item in each scenario. We all know you need to spend money to get your ass on the road again, but how much is the question and the additional money spent in each scenario will have a benefit, so weigh that benefit against its cost. If the money you get to fix your car is free, consider the source, i.e. your parents. It obviously did not grow on a tree, so where does that money come from? Investment account, your college fund, personal savings, etc. What value is lost to you or your parents by giving you this money today? As an example 20k invested over 5 years with modest gains of 7% annually would result in $28,353.50. So the 20k is not really free in that scenario. I'm sure you see my point. Lets say you repay your parents over the same 5 year period, but at 0%. It still cost your parents over $8,000 to give you the money. As a teenager, it would really help you to learn how to look at the value of money, time value of money, and both present and future worth analysis. I'm not going to go into detail about how to do this, as I'm sure your a smart kid and can figure out what to do. The lack of understanding of the value of money is a huge problem for most people and why a lot of people get into financial trouble. Like I said before, lay all your cards on the table and weigh your options thoroughly, pro/cons/cost. Every decision you make has a cost, don't know the cost, find out or make a rational estimate, but never a wild ass guess. If I were your parents, seeing you make the personal decision to go through this very detailed exercise would be very impressive and would show that you not only want to make the right choice given your circumstances, you want to make the smart financial choice for everyone involved.

You need to identify each one of your options, I see at least 5:

1. File insurance claim, buy used vehicle.
2. Invest in a new 3.7L for your current rig and keep it.
3. Invest in a new 3.7L for your rig, sell it, buy used vehicle.
3. Part out your rig and buy a used vehicle.
4. Invest in a new 6.2L V8 for your current rig.
5. Buy a used car to drive while you learn/teach yourself how to rebuild/fix your rig yourself, not easy, but doable, especially if you stick to the 3.7L.

Good luck. Everything you do in life teaches you a lesson, its up to you wether or not you choose to learn from it.

1. Cheapest, but i don't see my self going this route when I have the funds that will get me a car that will make me happy.
$10,000+price of used car
2. Cheaper, but without replacing all the wiring electrical gremlins would kill my drivetrain i'm sure. Could be the most expensive easily in the long. And the most risky.(8-10,000+15,000(dads)+repairs from electrical issues)
3. Worst option, would not get anywhere close to 12,000 that insurance would give us. Plus I would not sell someone a flood damaged car that I don't know will work for them.(not an option for me)
4. Cheap All drivetrain wiring replaced (extreme reduced chance for gremlins) great gas mileage 0miles on engine and trans.
(21,300+15,000(dads))
5. Unknown, Plus parents would never let me take this on myself.(not an option)
6. Buying a used alpha. Cheap:same as 6.2L swap($14,000 (new car)+$12-13,000(insurance minimum)+$12,000(dads))

Dads-loans on current ride or new ride


Money did not come from parents, it came to me very personally like i've said before. Although it is invested and I will loose any money I would have made. But it is invested very safely and i'm only averaging less than 5% annually.

That being said, the money is not needed in my life all through out college and on. May help with debt from medical school, but I would be screwed from student loans anyways.

 

[Big2dabank]

Ok this is obviously not about making the smart financial decision, its about you getting what you want and your parents are willing to help/enable you to do that. As a parent of a teenager, I am just trying to help you value the money in your decisions. So money obviously not being a concern, get rid of your rig (part it out, burn it, insurance, whatever...) and buy an Alpha. I think the V8 swap is cool in concept, you say cheap, but I still say its a bad idea, as it is actually very expensive based on the numbers you threw out and it does not solve the problem that you still have a car that was submerged and no matter how clean you think everything is, corrosion in even the small electrical wire/component or even the body, could haunt you for the life of that vehicle. That in my book is a huge uncertainty and a risk I would personally not take. Smart play all along IMO, insurance claim, pay off your loan and use the remaining money to buy something else, if it happens to be another hummer great.