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BOOM! Long awaited driveshaft adapters...

4speedfunk

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Bolt circle is absolute. 3.5"....period. That's what I'm running. That's what 06H3 is running. That's what the adapter is made for. It's not rocket science. Nothing custom required.
 

jbrand11

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Bolt circle is absolute. 3.5"....period. That's what I'm running. That's what 06H3 is running. That's what the adapter is made for. It's not rocket science. Nothing custom required.

Thanks for the quick reply, I meant drive shaft, so I guess the E-Bay link will work for 2008 alpha?

Sorry for my confusion....driveshafts ordered
 
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RamRod

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Super stoked to have one of these on the way now that I have had a second CV joint go in less than a a year!

Did we settle on 30" is the drive shaft length for a Rancho lifted rig running this setup?


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Panzer07

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Well receive my driveshaft today and mounted the adapter idk if I should paint it since it is already rusting.
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4speedfunk

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Yes. Paint with your favorite rattle can. Put a thin layer of grease on each side before you install it. This will prevent it from fusing itself to the flanges, and allow you to remove it much easier in the future.
 

4speedfunk

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This is a variable-length shaft. This type of shaft is made for a live front axle (solid axle). Since a live axle moves up & down, this shaft has a slip-collar on the front end, and it can move in or out about 3"-4" to compensate for droop & compression of the front suspension....so there is a lot of built-in adjustment. Additionally, the slip portion of the shaft can be pulled-off and replaced with longer or shorter versions if more adjustment is needed. This makes it very easy to lengthen or shorten should you decide to go solid axle in the future.

On a stock (or Rancho lifted) H3...the front IFS is stationary and does not move up or down (unless your bushings are shot :roll:). The only reason you need the slip collar is to get the shaft installed. Once installed, it remains pretty much the same length as you are driving around. Without the slip collar...it would be impossible to get it installed between the t-case and the axle yoke. So even though, the front axle is bolted rigid to the frame...you still need the slip collar to collapse the length, and get the shaft bolted in place.

In contrary...the stock shaft uses a six-ball CV joint, and CV joints are designed to have a similar capability. This is called "plunge". "Plunge" on a CV is basically the same thing as "slip" on this shaft....they perform the same duty. The stock shaft only has about 1.5" of plunge...just enough to get it installed. Stock H3's run a 30.5" driveshaft. The THORparts adapter is 1/2" thick so essentially you need to specify a 30" installed length. Tatton's uses a chart that pre-determines the cut length, so all you need to do is tell them your desired installed length. You may wish to measure yours but, don't overthink it. I know for a fact that all H3's with an IFS will need a 30" installed length. The shaft will be made for this length, and it will collapse to approx. 28" and expand to approx. 32". That is a huge range of adjustment, and an IFS axle will never see more than .125" at any given time. Always measure from the mounting surface at the t-case (or the adapter plate), to the centerline of the u-joint cup at the front axle.
 
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06 H3

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An update on the driveshaft as well. It's badass....no vibrations. The old one was much more prone to vibration and this new setup is way better. It's also nice to have a jeep driveshaft. You can get parts for it easier or if you totally pretzel it you could find one much easier but it's much beefier then oem so I doubt you will pretzel it, the AAM-7 will probably blow up before you get to that breaking point of the driveshaft :)
 

4speedfunk

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I've sold many adapters, and I think most customers are getting their shafts from Tatton Driveline....I've not heard any bad reports whatsoever. One thing I can say is that Tatton seems to make great shafts, and his prices are very fair. They are spun-balanced and that is very important on the H3 because they are full-time 4WD. On other vehicles that have a 2WD mode...the front shaft can be shut-off, so highway vibes are not as critical. But on the H3...it spins all the time. That includes 75mph interstate travel where the shaft is spinning at ridiculously high rpms.

SOME HISTORY ON THE DRIVESHAFT ISSUE:
I made a dozen or so THORparts shafts a couple years ago. Squeaky, Geno, and myself (along with a few others) ran these for a year or two. These shafts used an aftermarket casting that mated a Spicer 3R cardan joint to the H3's t-case (no adapter needed). To be completely honest...I had so many complaints that it scared me away from the driveshaft business entirely. The 3R joints constantly burned up and the vibrations were never truly gone. The 3R joint is a big, clunky, mechanism from the 70s...and something else was clearly needed. That's when I started working with the 1310 CV. Its smoother and smaller than the 3R. It also has less spring tension inside the cardan. The only issue is...it doesn't bolt up to the H3 without the adapter. If you have a machine shop...you don't technically need the adapter. You can remove the output flange from your t-case...chuck it in a lathe...and make the necessary mods to bolt the 1310 (Hack & Tap) CV directly to it. You will need to turn the center pin down to fit the 1310 flange, and also re-drill the four mounting holes, (I believe Recon has something like this). Once you do this, it is permanently cut to fit the 1310. The nice thing about the adapter is you don't need to disassemble the t-case, go to a machine shop, or make permanent mods. If you ever want to return to a stock driveshaft, simply loose the adapter and bolt it back in.

I am not affiliated with Tatton but, I have spoke to CJ (the owner) one time on the phone about a year ago. By now he's probably wandering...Why are all these Hummer guys suddenly buying 30" Hack & Tap shafts? -Haha. THORparts and Tatton Driveline have a perfect symbiotic relationship: I make adapters. He makes shafts. He doesn't mess with adapters. I don't mess with shafts. Now all you guys can finally get a real shaft for a Jeep price. Its a win-win-win for all parties involved!

BTW...gfbH3T still runs the THORparts 3R shaft on Big Red, and his seems to be very smooth. I ran several of them, and wasn't impressed...and I don't know enough about driveshafts to understand why his works so well. So I'm not poo-poo'ing the 3R unit entirely, I just think the 1310 with the adapter is a better rig.
 

mantracker

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I just spoke to Curtis. Got my shaft ordered, and had a laugh about all these Hummer guys ordering shafts. He seems very likable.
 

Panzer07

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Yes. Paint with your favorite rattle can. Put a thin layer of grease on each side before you install it. This will prevent it from fusing itself to the flanges, and allow you to remove it much easier in the future.

Thank you that's why wants to painted not so much for cosmetics, but since it would be metal on metal. Anyways Thanks CJ will make sure to add the grease as well.


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ABNTROOP

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I just ordered off that eBay link and specified in the note 30" and that I was another H3 guy. He was quick to shoot a quick reply with a thank you and confirming the link.
 

gfbh3t

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Save me an adaptor. 13 hrs drive time and greased lost another u joint felt vibration at about the 11th hr. Also lost front crank pulley seal. Have a nice undercoat now
 

Panzer07

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I just ordered off that eBay link and specified in the note 30" and that I was another H3 guy. He was quick to shoot a quick reply with a thank you and confirming the link.

Would give him a call just to be sure he got the order, eBay messed up with mine and it didn't notify him, that's why I took him almost a month to deliver mine...not really his fault but I'd just give him a call. It only took a week from when I called him to inquire about my shaft.


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