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Snorkel Kit - Who's Interested?

RamRod

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Ok I know I will get sh&t for saying this but what about supporting the company (ARB) that designed the system for the H3? Don't they deserve our purchases even if they are more expensive? Purchasing these brand X products takes away from companies like ARB from making them in the future for other vehicles. Yes I put my money where my ethics are and purchased the ARB one even though there are cheaper ones out there. Just a thought guys.

I don't think you will get ****, I think its a valid question, and I asked myself the same thing... I do prefer to support brands who makes stuff, not the copies, but lately I have been looking at the crazy markup on these very same companies are putting on their products and now that weighs in as a factor for me (if that markup provides no value)

ARB wants $400 (does not include shipping)
The copy is $170 (this includes shipping)

Yes the product took time to design, but they only had to design it once, after that it's just production cost, which per unit is ridiculously low since its just roto-molded plastic.

Now if ARB was selling their unit for $200 or $250 then it would be a no brainer I would go with them hands down.
 

JPaul

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ARB/Safari made their money back a long time ago I'm sure. With computer modeling and how easy GM made it to hook up the snorkel to the airbox I'm sure they didn't have to invest a whole lot into the development of the product. It's actually just been within the last half a year that the knock offs have even really been available. Prior to that (so for over ten years) the ARB/Safari was the ONLY option. No one else made anything for the H3 as far as I am aware. This is very unlike the Jeeps and many other vehicles that have at least a couple different manufacturers making different snorkels for each model, not including the knock offs available.

On top of that you can even got the knock offs for the Jeeps and Toyota and everything else for half the price of the knock off for the H3. Arb really is still only charging so much for them because it put its name on them and did the initial work. But trust me, they have more than made their investment back on every single snorkel model they've come out with. Manufacturing costs for those are really quite low, and they are far from a precision part so the reject rate must be rediculously low.

So while it's great to support the brands that do the initial work, business is business and you're always going to end up dealing with a copy of your product that you have to contend with, especially if you don't patent it, which I don't think they bother doing on something like this since it's such a generic part, you'd have to go through the patent process for every single model and that might not be worth the costs involved, especially globally. But I could be wrong.

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RamRod

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ARB/Safari made their money back a long time ago I'm sure. With computer modeling and how easy GM made it to hook up the snorkel to the airbox I'm sure they didn't have to invest a whole lot into the development of the product. It's actually just been within the last half a year that the knock offs have even really been available. Prior to that (so for over ten years) the ARB/Safari was the ONLY option. No one else made anything for the H3 as far as I am aware. This is very unlike the Jeeps and many other vehicles that have at least a couple different manufacturers making different snorkels for each model, not including the knock offs available.

On top of that you can even got the knock offs for the Jeeps and Toyota and everything else for half the price of the knock off for the H3. Arb really is still only charging so much for them because it put its name on them and did the initial work. But trust me, they have more than made their investment back on every single snorkel model they've come out with. Manufacturing costs for those are really quite low, and they are far from a precision part so the reject rate must be rediculously low.

So while it's great to support the brands that do the initial work, business is business and you're always going to end up dealing with a copy of your product that you have to contend with, especially if you don't patent it, which I don't think they bother doing on something like this since it's such a generic part, you'd have to go through the patent process for every single model and that might not be worth the costs involved, especially globally. But I could be wrong.

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Well said

Also I will be buying an ARB fridge Freezer soon... so they are still getting lots of my hard earned money!! haha
 

GreatDaneHummer

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Even if they did patent the design any Chinese company would not care. They continue to copy products non stop and have blatantly disregarded any original creativity on their end. The ARB fridge is pretty sweet by the way.

ARB/Safari made their money back a long time ago I'm sure. With computer modeling and how easy GM made it to hook up the snorkel to the airbox I'm sure they didn't have to invest a whole lot into the development of the product. It's actually just been within the last half a year that the knock offs have even really been available. Prior to that (so for over ten years) the ARB/Safari was the ONLY option. No one else made anything for the H3 as far as I am aware. This is very unlike the Jeeps and many other vehicles that have at least a couple different manufacturers making different snorkels for each model, not including the knock offs available.

On top of that you can even got the knock offs for the Jeeps and Toyota and everything else for half the price of the knock off for the H3. Arb really is still only charging so much for them because it put its name on them and did the initial work. But trust me, they have more than made their investment back on every single snorkel model they've come out with. Manufacturing costs for those are really quite low, and they are far from a precision part so the reject rate must be rediculously low.

So while it's great to support the brands that do the initial work, business is business and you're always going to end up dealing with a copy of your product that you have to contend with, especially if you don't patent it, which I don't think they bother doing on something like this since it's such a generic part, you'd have to go through the patent process for every single model and that might not be worth the costs involved, especially globally. But I could be wrong.

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RamRod

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They are copying entire vehicles!!! I think it was Top Gear that did a show on it once and it's very shocking how similar they made everything about the car look

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RamRod

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Anyways back on topic, I am at work but I just got a text that the delivery came and so I will be opening up the boxes tonight and will post up pics!

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RamRod

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So I opened one box after work and looked at one of the kits

I AM SUPER IMPRESSED

The quality of these units are what I would expect from a brand name product

I will take some better photos this weekend, but here are a few cell phone pictures in the mean time... I took these photos to show the quality of the plastic and nut inserts

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RamRod

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I might be interested but I'd like to hear some results from the first batch


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Of course, I won't do another round until I know how these go first.

Next round will need to be a group of 10. I lucked out and the manufacturer had 5 ready to go on the shelf

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RamRod

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Hopefully I will get around to installing this sucker some time this week, if not, then it will deff go on the following week
 
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