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[davidh3]

Is it humid?

I would say No. It's normal. Indiana people are nice, they are friendly and gentle.

 

[DJinCO]

If there is an area that I cannot maneuver, I would go around. This park is 800 acres and it's flat. How hard can it be? I am used to 800' sheer face drops. That is challenging?

BTW, I don't "do" mud.

Or bugs.
Or humidity.

 

[davidh3]

If there is an area that I cannot maneuver, I would go around. This park is 800 acres and it's flat. How hard can it be? I am used to 800' sheer face drops. That is challenging?

BTW, I don't "do" mud.

Or bugs.
Or humidity.

"If there is an area that I cannot maneuver, I would go around.",,,,,,, Yes, there are many areas that you cannot maneuver. The people who had been there know what it's like. You can ask H4O members who live in Indiana.

Sometimes, you have to go to the place and see it. It's like you don't know what's inside a box until you open it. You can imagine whatever you want but the actual thing might surprise you.

And in the past I never thought Florida having off road trails because it's flat as we know, but there was an off road park in Ocala, Florida.... I was surprised.

 

[ABNTROOP]

This thread is

 

[Sethmark]

I've wheeled all over the country. There's hard stuff everywhere if you look enough.

 

[DJinCO]

True. There is hard and there is boooorrrrrring. Driving in a muddy farmers field seems to be .... well, a bit boring.

I have seen the TV show "The Middle".

I go off-road to see the magnificent sights. Vast open vistas. Being on the top of a 14,000 foot peak. Seeing for hundreds of miles. Being the only people for miles and miles and never seeing anyone else all day.

To each his own. Just like Jeeps vs HUMMERS vs Land Rovers vs Toyotas,

We all have different ideas of pleasure and happiness.

I am glad that you enjoy the park.

 

[davidh3]

Jeep:cheers:HUMMER:cheers:Land Rver:cheers:Toyota:cheers:Others

 

[Sethmark]

Badlands is a unique place. It was started by Troy Meyers in a gravel pit he bought. He had Avalanche build him this crazy car.....The sniper. He was definitely on the cutting edge of buggy technology and an early adopter. Good guy too.

They sold that place about 5 or 6 years ago I think.

 

[3Hummers]

I have had a lot of friends with RR. The consensus is that repairs are expensive and reliability isn't great. They are nice. I like the Discos and Defenders but not the other models so much. Just personal preference.

 

[davidh3]

I have had a lot of friends with RR. The consensus is that repairs are expensive and reliability isn't great. They are nice. I like the Discos and Defenders but not the other models so much. Just personal preference.

Yeah, repairs are expensive. I just owned my RR Sport less than one year so I can't judge the reliability for now.
For driving a relatively expensive car, it's always good to own it when it has the warranty, so that even though it has a bad reputation of reliability, you get free repair under the warranty.

 

[3Hummers]

I agree even though while it is under warranty I am reluctant to work on a vehicle. Once the warranty is over the wrenches come out of the tool box.

 

[Hans3T]

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[Mb30sdl]

I had a Jag back in a day and it was POS lucas/oil leaking nightmare.

And i was looking at LR before getting into H2 and offroad professionals strongly advised me against getting LR or RR.
I think it all depends on your wallet, capabilities(regional specifics) and commitment to offroad.

Any truck can be made into good ofroader, it just how much money you want to spent. Aperantly good JEEP costs $120-140K to make it good ofroader.

 

[Sethmark]

I had a Jag back in a day and it was POS lucas/oil leaking nightmare.

And i was looking at LR before getting into H2 and offroad professionals strongly advised me against getting LR or RR.
I think it all depends on your wallet, capabilities(regional specifics) and commitment to offroad.

Any truck can be made into good ofroader, it just how much money you want to spent. Aperantly good JEEP costs $120-140K to make it good ofroader.

$120k????? That's silly... There are precious few trails in this country that can't be run with a $10k Wrangler with 35s, a small lift and lockers. Even indestructible with Dynatrac 60s with arbs, an Atlas t-case and top shelf lift kit, beadlock wheels and krawlers, a custom cage, hydro assist steering and all the go fast widgets, you're only looking at about $45k including the jeep.

Sure, you want to take a $40k rubicon and drop it off for a hemi, axles, and the whole setup, you'll spend $140k, but it won't go anywhere that the budget wheeler would do. Nowhere. And I've had the TJ to prove it.

 

[Mb30sdl]

If you don't believe me you need to talk to Mel at OFFROAD EVOLUTION. 120-140K is his words not mine. I am starting to look for next project, but I never do "HOME DEPOT SPECIAL", 35":funny.You do it right or you DON'T DO IT AT ALL. Dana 80,60, CRV, V8 swap etc.

This is why i don't like Jeeps, by the time you done it still cost you arm and a leg and interior is still POS.

 

[06 H3]

My personal belief on the cost of 4x4s, years ago it wasnt as expensive as it is today. People didnt need fancy coilovers, they ran leaf springs. people didnt buy roll cages, they made them. People took old V8s dropped them in the truck from the driveway, now its at a shop that can handle all the electronics. The high dollar rig wasnt always around until electronics got in the way and fabricators made a big business. It used to be small shops and wheeling was for the average dude. Not until recently that I heard people drop 120k into a rig. It used to be take an old CJ7, throw in an old school V8, go to the junkyard get some 60s, spend some money on tires and a tube to build a rollcage and your done. wheeling has gotten more expensive then what it once was...

Having someone build it for you takes money too, so I am sure that cost is factored in there. A simple spring over would cost someone 300 bucks in parts, bring it to a shop your at 1k. Then you setup link kits on your own in the driveway thats about 1k in parts maybe more but once you have someone build it for you then your looking at 4-5k. Same with axles, CJ did a low buck axle swap and to keep his electronics happy, he spent less for the whole project (steering, axle, links, etc.) then one dynatrac 60. The cost adds up in this day and age....It can be done for low buck and it can work well but it takes some time.

 

[Sethmark]

If you don't believe me you need to talk to Mel at OFFROAD EVOLUTION. 120-140K is his words not mine. I am starting to look for next project, but I never do "HOME DEPOT SPECIAL", 35":funny.You do it right or you DON'T DO IT AT ALL. Dana 80,60, CRV, V8 swap etc.

This is why i don't like Jeeps, by the time you done it still cost you arm and a leg and interior is still POS.

I'm fairly certain that a guy that makes a living building high dollar jeeps is going to tell you that the only way to get over hard trail is in a high dollar jeep. I worked for more than one company that manufactured high dollar Jeep parts. I know what's possible with them and I know what's possible without.

While the v8is nice to have it's not required. Gearing can make up for almost all horsepower deficiencies. Ask any Toyota guy running a doubler box and 190:1.

For the record, I've run Rubicon over 25 times on 35's or less and a single rear locker. Never broke a thing. I've also run some of the hardest Hammer trails on 35 and two lockers. Ive run most every trail in Moab with 35 and one locker and no issues.

Don't misunderstand me. I owned a jeep with a pair of Dynatrac 60s, a 4L60e, and Atlas and comp compound 37s. Its nice to have no weak links. But to say a jeep needs $120k to run trail is nonsense.

 

[Mb30sdl]

you do realize suspension upgrade alone with Atlas is~40K, jeep 40K, engine swap 15-20K=100K so $120 with body armor and recovery is not bad deal at all.

May be when i build I want it to be bulletproof.

 

[Sethmark]

I understand how the numbers add up. Especially if you're writing a check for tons of labor. I don't do that.

But don't con yourself into believing you'll be any further down the trail than the budget built jeep. I can build a 2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited for under $40k that will comfortably run any trail in the country. It can be daily driven and never, ever break.

 

[Mb30sdl]

Only if you don't value your labor. It's much easier for me to do what I do and wright check, then some one with experience can do labor. I am sure I can do this myself but I value my free time with family much more.

 

[Mb30sdl]

And just to show you that I don't BS. I do or have to redue someonelses wiring on all of my trucks and trailers. None of this so called builders can do descent electrical work. My work will outlast any car.

 

[brock]

Loving that Richard Hammond upload!

 

[Best4x4]

I've owned a wide range of 4x4's from Mitsubishi's, Nissan's, Land Rover's, Jeep's, and finally my H3 Alpha. I owned 5 Land Rover's, from a 94 Range Rover Classic SWB, 97 Discovery SE, 97 Range Rover HSE Vitesse in AA Yellow (one of 150 ever made....), and two 03 Discovery SE7's. Not a single one of them ever left me on the side of the road or stuck out on the trail. I never had any critical failures, and all my Rover's ran excellent, and handled on road/off road flawless. I'd still have my 94 RR, but a friend of mine kept bugging me to sell it, and he still has it to this day.

Rover's are fine as long as the OEM wiring hasn't been played with, and the previous owners did the proper maintenance.

 

[DJinCO]

Q: What does it mean when a LR stops leaking fluid in the driveway?
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A: You are low on fluid and you need to top it off. :giggle:

 

[Paladine71]

I've owned a wide range of 4x4's from Mitsubishi's, Nissan's, Land Rover's, Jeep's, and finally my H3 Alpha. I owned 5 Land Rover's, from a 94 Range Rover Classic SWB, 97 Discovery SE, 97 Range Rover HSE Vitesse in AA Yellow (one of 150 ever made....), and two 03 Discovery SE7's. Not a single one of them ever left me on the side of the road or stuck out on the trail. I never had any critical failures, and all my Rover's ran excellent, and handled on road/off road flawless. I'd still have my 94 RR, but a friend of mine kept bugging me to sell it, and he still has it to this day.

Rover's are fine as long as the OEM wiring hasn't been played with, and the previous owners did the proper maintenance.

How does the H3 Alpha compare to the others?