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H3T Hans3T's Tuff Country Build
06 H3
a.k.a. "The Jackal"
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Nice those help one last picture. Behind the crossmembers of the front end
06 H3
a.k.a. "The Jackal"
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Perfect now turn around and take a pic of the stock crossmember where the other end of the torsion bar goes
08SolarFlareH3
Super Swampers
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There is no drop for the torsion bar on the Tuff Country
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06 H3
a.k.a. "The Jackal"
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- Meridian, ID
Ok Im gonna need some opinions on this from some others to confirm or deny my thought process on why the ride is stiff.
First lets start on the front.
Bumpstops: they are part of the working suspension...the TC bumpstop and the oem bumpstop characteristics are probably different and the oem suspension has the bumpstop less then an inch off the lower control arm. Not here...
Oem hub to fender distance is 22.5 rancho recommends 26.0-26.5 and TC is the same seeing its a 4in lift. What's your hub to fender? I remember you mentioned you cranked yours higher and it looks that way.
Torsion bar: the rancho kit uses that cast piece to leave the torsion bar in the stock location and leaving it straight and level. Seeing TC doesn't have that cast piece and no Torsion bar drop brackets in the back isn't the Torsion bar at an angle and being bent? Does that effect how the torsion bar work? Idk that's where someone else may confirm or deny that. I have never seen a TC kit in person or driven one.
Rear: the springs were designed to be stiffer then oem. We talked about that but it was still better then the add a leaves. Also I used stock shackles and wouldn't that push the shackle angle back and soften it up a bit?
First lets start on the front.
Bumpstops: they are part of the working suspension...the TC bumpstop and the oem bumpstop characteristics are probably different and the oem suspension has the bumpstop less then an inch off the lower control arm. Not here...
Oem hub to fender distance is 22.5 rancho recommends 26.0-26.5 and TC is the same seeing its a 4in lift. What's your hub to fender? I remember you mentioned you cranked yours higher and it looks that way.
Torsion bar: the rancho kit uses that cast piece to leave the torsion bar in the stock location and leaving it straight and level. Seeing TC doesn't have that cast piece and no Torsion bar drop brackets in the back isn't the Torsion bar at an angle and being bent? Does that effect how the torsion bar work? Idk that's where someone else may confirm or deny that. I have never seen a TC kit in person or driven one.
Rear: the springs were designed to be stiffer then oem. We talked about that but it was still better then the add a leaves. Also I used stock shackles and wouldn't that push the shackle angle back and soften it up a bit?
Sorry Chris, haven't been able to snap a pic yet of the rear cross member. Seems like Cory had an answer on that though.
What course of action do you recommend I take? I don't like the idea of twiddling with my t-bars....all the alignment costs add up quick.
What course of action do you recommend I take? I don't like the idea of twiddling with my t-bars....all the alignment costs add up quick.
06 H3
a.k.a. "The Jackal"
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I don't need the pics. I know you mentioned to me dropping it off at a shop before you do that I'm gonna have you experiment. Maybe someone else can chime in. Put on the stock shackles and measure the hub to fender for me.
08SolarFlareH3
Super Swampers
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If it was ME, I would order the following items from Rancho and install them
176352 Torsion Bat Relocator, Right
176353 Torsion Bar Relocator, Left
176349 Bump Stop Bracket (x2)
Return to OEM bump stops
Pick up a set of factory rear leaf spring shackles....there cheap, even from a dealer (Part #15166223 list for $10.40ea)
I'm confident that would take care of most of your problems and why Rancho users claim better ride quality then your experiencing.
MAYBE upgrade shocks at some point too as I no experience with Tuff Country shocks and can't comment on there quality
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176352 Torsion Bat Relocator, Right
176353 Torsion Bar Relocator, Left
176349 Bump Stop Bracket (x2)
Return to OEM bump stops
Pick up a set of factory rear leaf spring shackles....there cheap, even from a dealer (Part #15166223 list for $10.40ea)
I'm confident that would take care of most of your problems and why Rancho users claim better ride quality then your experiencing.
MAYBE upgrade shocks at some point too as I no experience with Tuff Country shocks and can't comment on there quality
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06 H3
a.k.a. "The Jackal"
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Great info Corey. I think those will all help a lot. I stated my concerns and all those parts are solutions to the concerns I had.
I know I bash on rancho springs but overall it's a great kit they did their research.
I know I bash on rancho springs but overall it's a great kit they did their research.
What do you run for air pressure in the tires? When I'm just driving around home I run about 38 psi. If I load up heavy for a long trip I will air up to 50 or 60 psi. If you are running 315/75r16's some of them are 10 ply and have a Max rating of 80 psi. If your running a lot of air pressure it will stiffen the ride and you will feel every crack in the road.
06 H3
a.k.a. "The Jackal"
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- 9,493
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- Meridian, ID
Id try those for now. It may help or may not but its cheap and worth a try